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- Topic 2 Sun Dec 22, 1991
- J.MEEHAN3 [>> Joe M << ] at 11:07 EST
- Sub: FLASH II for the ST(E)/TT
-
- "Flash II - the update to Flash! - Flash II includes many new features
- including flawless operation on all ST, STe and TT computers. Download the
- demo (file #28268), then ask your questions here."
- 201 message(s) total.
- ************
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 1 Sun Mar 14, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 14:32 EST
-
- =========================== FLASH II ==============================
-
- -------------------- Now shipping version 2.1! ----------------------
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- FROM: MISSIONWARE SOFTWARE
- 354 N. Winston Drive
- Palatine, Illinois 60067-4132
- United States of America
- phone 708-359-9565
-
-
- Missionware Software is pleased to annouce the release of version 2.1 of Flash
- II. This is our second update in the past year. Flash II originally went up
- for sale in April of 1992. Version 2.0 was our first release, followed a few
- months later by version 2.01. Version 2.1 fixes a number of problems
- discovered by our customers and beta testers over the past few months. It's
- also our first full upgrade, and as promised, it is being sent out to all
- currently registered customers *for free* on a brand new disk. We'll be
- sending these disks out during the next couple of weeks in order of serial
- number. Those with low numbers will get their upgrades first. If you haven't
- received your upgrade by the middle of April, please contact us to make sure
- you are properly registered.
-
- In addition to the enhancments listed below, this upgrade is being sent out
- with our new installation program. You'll need to reregister (on your disk
- only!) this version of Flash II. Future maintenance upgrades will be handled
- online (you'll be able to download a patch file) so it's imperative that you
- properly register your new version.
-
- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
-
- Flash II is the update to the most popular Atari ST telecommunications program
- ever! It's available exclusively from Missionware Software and at an
- affordable price! Flash II is completely rewritten by Paul Nicholls of
- Clayfield, Australia. But don't let that fool you! Flash II has the same
- look and feel as previous versions of Flash...plus a slew of new features to
- boot! And it's just as easy and fast to use for the telecommunications
- beginner or pro! Take a look below for just some of what Flash II can offer
- you now...
-
- DO script files compatible with older versions of Flash!
-
- All macros use the familiar Flash DO script format!
-
- Easily setup the parameters for each BBS you call...this includes
- everything from ASCII upload/download options to baud rate!
-
- You can program up to 20 individual and separate macros for each
- BBS plus an additional 10 global macros !
-
- Displays RLE & GIF pictures either on or off line! You can also
- save or load these pictures for later review!
-
- Supports the following terminal types: TTY, VIDTEX, VT52, ANSI,
- VT100, VT101, VT102, VT200, VT300 & PRESTEL.
-
- Now includes full support for RTS/CTS. This mode can now be turned
- on and off by the user.
-
- Includes Automatic Answer mode!
-
- Includes Auto Boards mode - Preselect the board(s) you wish to dial
- and when Flash II is launched either manually from the desktop by
- you, or automatically by some other program launcher, Flash II will
- wakeup and dial the board(s) you've got selected. It will also wait
- for the proper time to dial these boards.
-
- Includes full featured GEM text editor with: merge, block
- commands, cut & paste, search & replace, paragraph reformating; user
- tab settings, page width, full keyboard cursor and delete control
- and more!
-
- Supports the ST, IBM and DEC character sets, including IBM
- graphics characters!
-
- Includes Silent Line for background file transfers!
-
- Supports the following upload/download protocols: ASCII, Xmodem,
- Ymodem, Ymodem-G, Zmodem, Modem7, WXmodem, CIS B, Kermit and SEAlink!
- And all of these protocols are built into the program...no external
- modules required!!!
-
- Zmodem now supports the selection of AutoStart and Streaming
- options. If you prefer to use an external Zmodem protocol with
- Flash II, you can now force Flash II's Zmodem autostart mode to off.
- For BBS' that don't support "streaming", this too can now be turned
- off.
-
- Logs all on line time and calculates your approximate costs for you!
-
- New version written in assembler! Fast!
-
- Runs on all ST, STe and TT's
-
- Now supports "Install Application". You can create a DO script that
- can be used to launch Flash II from the desktop and force it to dial
- up and go online for you, all automatically!
-
- Both the Terminal and Editor have been enhanced significantly for
- both speed and ease of use. You'll be amazed at how fast the new
- Flash II is!
-
- A new "BReak" script command is added which permits the sending of a
- terminal break to the host computer while a script is running.
-
-
- Missionware Software's upgrade policy remains the same for the new Version
- 2.1! We will continue to upgrade any old version of Flash! (copyright Antic
- Software) for just $30 US, plus $4 shipping and handling (US and Canada), $8
- worldwide. Or, you can purchase Flash II, version 2.1 outright, for only
- $49.95 US plus the shipping and handling charges applicable to your area. To
- order, or for more information, contact:
-
- Missionware Software
- 354 N. Winston Drive
- Palatine, IL 60067-4132
- United States of America
- phone 708-359-9565
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 2 Sat Mar 27, 1993
- A.B.SMITH [Barry] at 06:10 EST
-
- John- Any idea why with the new upgrade I have click on TERMINATE CALL after I
- log off one BBS before I can dial up another. I never had to before. I mean
- most of the options under that menu are greyed out until I do this until I do
- this. Did I set something wrong? Thanks. - Barry
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 3 Sat Mar 27, 1993
- B.CONNOLLY1 [Bud] at 16:26 EST
-
- I got my upgrade to Flash 2.1 about a week ago (thanx John!) and have noticed
- one problem with downloads. Zmodem will download at about 850-880 bytes per
- second, but Ymodem-Batch crawls at 450 bytes per second. These are downloads
- on a Zoom V.32 modem at 9600 Baud to a local BBS. Has anyone else seen this
- speed difference? or is it just me? I would expect either one to run in the
- upper 800 bytes per second.
-
- John T. - a feature that I'd like to see on file transfers, Total bytes to
- download on each file. It let's me know if I have time to run and do something
- else. My version of multitasking!
-
- Bud
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 4 Sat Mar 27, 1993
- R.NELSON48 at 19:22 EST
-
- OK Hot Shots, give me an answer for this one. . . (It is probably a novice
- GEine problem, not related to FII) When I am trapped in a long mess of text
- and don't want to hang on for a thousand more lines I hit the ESC key. This
- is the key that GEine and I have agreed will get me out of trouble. Doesn't
- work. The Flash II capture buffer keeps doing its job, I watch with dismay as
- my Cap: nnnK decreses madly I hit ESC ESC ESC, still not a prayer of stopping
- the input. Then at last success but now I can't type on my screen and nothing
- is coming in. I go to my capture screen and low and behold there is new stuff
- there, plus my key presses. I go back to terminal screen, nothing. back to
- capture, there are my latest key presses and anything GEine is doing in
- response. The only way out of this is a quick BYE and re-boot. What am I
- doing wrong????
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 5 Sat Mar 27, 1993
- R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson] at 20:11 EST
-
- I get better results using Zmodem than I do using Ymodem-G with any program I
- have ran.
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 6 Sat Mar 27, 1993
- R.BINGHAM2 [Da Sloth] at 23:35 EST
-
- Escape is a bad break key. I know it causes MAJOR problems in Air Warrior and
- I wouldn't be surprised if it was fiddling with VT100 simulation or some such
- in Flash2. Get ye hence to the SETUP page and change your break key to
- Control-C or some such.
-
- You can use Control-S and COntrol-Q to stop and start the text. When the
- buffer gets full, hit control-S, save the buffer, clear the buffer, and hit
- Control-Q.
-
- Or is it that you are just not able to see ANYTHING on the terminal screen?
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 7 Sun Mar 28, 1993
- F.GORON [Frank] at 00:03 EST
-
- Hi John,
-
- Got the 2.1 update earlier this week & it looks very nice, BUT... (John says
- "..uh oh.." <g>) there seems to be a problem with the color pallette that
- wasn't there in 2.01. If I boot with either Neodesk 3.03, the Neodesk control
- panel, or XControl (with the color CPX) then the terminal mode displays
- background and text in the same color. At least it does it when I have the
- terminal setting "light/dark" with light selected. Haven't tried dark yet. In
- the top right corner, the time/dollar display is still there, tho. I looked
- out in the capture after logging on to Genie & the data is all there, so it's
- defintely the color pallette doing somethin goofy. I even see little blinking
- flashes of light scrolling down the screen as the data comes in but nothing
- more. I should mention that I have my Neo & desktop pallettes set with black &
- white reversed so that the "light" setting would normally give me white
- letters on a black background. But that shouldn't be a factor since with the
- exact same setup, this problem wasn't/isn't there in 2.01.
-
- On a positive note, the problem I was having with the DX command seems to be
- gone, I can now set it to the root of an empty drive & it won't give me that
- invalid directory message I used to get.
-
- Lastly, I was dl'ing a couple of files a bit ago & I was thinking about the
- layout of the status window. In the total file size line, you have listed the
- number of total Xmodem blocks, yet in the current size line right below it,
- the number of blocks appear to be 1k blocks? Perhaps you can arrange to have
- the same type of blocks in each line so that there can be a common point of
- reference between total blocks & number of blocks currently dl'd. When we
- talked about the Status window last, you said you weren't too crazy about it
- yourself & that it was going to be redone. This is one thing that can
- definitely improve the window.
-
- Another would be to have it in a gem window so it could be displayed/ moved. I
- think you said that a gem window was already planned for it?
-
- Thanks
-
- Frank
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 8 Sun Mar 28, 1993
- F.GORON [Frank] at 00:52 EST
-
- Another suggestion for the next update. Currently for the T/A you can swap the
- Enter & Return keys' functions. How about another option, to have both Enter
- and Return send the T/A to the modem. I find I rarely if ever use the T/A for
- more than one line of text, & I like to use whichever key my pinky is closest
- to to send the T/A buffer. Good Idea, no?
-
- Frank
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 9 Sun Mar 28, 1993
- M.DEVENEAU [M.D.] at 01:14 EST
-
- John,
-
- Thanks for the info. I odered it last Wednesday and it arrived today. Looks
- like it is going to be quite a nice program. All I have to do now is figure
- out how to logon automatically.
-
- Thanks again...
-
- See you on the board.
-
- Michael
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 10 Sun Mar 28, 1993
- A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt] at 01:39 EST
-
- You're not using Aladdin, that's all you are doing wrong. :)
-
- I think you'll have to have FII and GEnie agree on what constitutes a true
- BREAK. That's all that seems to be the problem.
-
- Al
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 11 Sun Mar 28, 1993
- F.GORON [Frank] at 10:32 EST
-
- Well John, I temporarily switched black & white in my color pallette, & sure
- enough, the symptom of "black on black" or "white on white" in the terminal
- disappeared. Yes, the problem is there when the terminal option is set to dark
- as well. Perhaps there might be a quick little patch that Paul could do that
- could be u/l'd here on Genie? or maybe all that's needed is to "zap" a byte
- or two in the file? I hope so, 'cause I gotta tell you, I consider this a
- major "oops".
-
- Thanks
-
- Frank
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 12 Sun Mar 28, 1993
- F.BELL1 [Frank @ Home] at 12:51 EST
-
- R.Nelson48,
-
- Al's suggession is the best: get Aladdin for GEnie and then use normal VT52
- keyboard codes, for example Control C to 'break'. Flash2 is for everything
- else (well, it won't do the dishes...yet).
-
- John,
-
- Here in Austria the every-day, run-of-the-mill, postman delievers among other
- things 'monthly cash payments' to the un-employed. That means, if you're out
- of work and registered at the un-employment office, all you have to do to
- collect your monthly un-employmment money is to stay at home and wait for the
- mailman. Needless to say there are times of the month when the mailman
- (generaly a kid around 20 or a grandfather - nothing in between) is walking
- the streets with tons of money in his mailbag. I'm, of coarse, not the only
- who knows this - its general knowledge.
-
- Anyway, while waiting for my copy of Flash 2.1 (day after day after day after
- day...) my mailman (a kid around 20) was starting to get a little worried as
- 'that time of month' was nearing and 'what the heck was that old man doing
- hanging around the mailboxes' day after day after day...?
-
- The day after you made the Flash 2.1 announcement I started hanging around the
- appartment house mailboxes. The mailman (a grandfather that day) asked 'what
- the heck was I waiting for?' and didn't beleave me when I said 'Flash 2.1' (in
- German I must have said something like 'lighting strike again', or 'the second
- strike of lighting' or maybe even 'the second comming' (I was nervus and
- doddering in anticipation) and he didn't beleave me. Neither did the kid the
- next day. Or the day after that. Or even the day after that...
-
- Well, un-employment cash payment day came around and so did the mailman (the
- kid again) and two policemen (kids around 20) and what was I doing (besides
- waiting for the 'second comming')? Ya, just hanging around the mailboxes.
- Just as the bigger one was opening is mouth ('alright you no good bum, you old
- man, you American, your comming with...') the mailman pulled out, from in-
- between thousand and thousand of Schillings in cash ($17.25 US), an airmail
- floppy disk mailer (do not fold or bend).
-
- 'Well I'll be darn' were his words, but in German, 'Missionsoftware! You were
- waiting for THE SECOND COMMING - geewiz, lighting strikes again'.
-
- Anyway, Flash 2.1 has arrived in Vienna, has been installed in Vienna, has
- made the first suggessful up and downloads in Vienna and I wasn't even present
- when the mailman came (a kid around 20 by the way). Thanks for the better
- scripts, the better Silent Line, the better Zmodem options and everything
- else. :-)
-
- Frank...
-
- Oh, bad news too. I just reread your 'README'. I too have the problem
- discribed concerning Silent Line operation on the TT but I own a MegaST4.
- Maybe higher resolution screens or faster machines cause the problem - I use
- an overscan type card and run with a Turbo20 card. It really wouldn't be a
- problem but it seems that the configuration is saved to the FLASH2.LST file
- (even if the file isn't saved which is another problem).
-
- It also seems to hand up the modem too (I mean REALLY HANG THE MODEM UP - no
- more dialing from the 'board' concerned is possible until everything is but
- back to normal.
-
- Like Wayne I think Ymodem running under Silent Line is dead in the water.
- Alone it seems to be ok but under Silent Line the RXD speed drops to at least
- half its normal speed (I haven't tried uploading yet).
-
- P.P.S. I have a story (true this time) about installing Flash also. But will
- save it till you get back. Its not an install problem, its a user problem
- (was a user problem).
-
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 13 Sun Mar 28, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 13:16 EST
-
- Hi all...
-
- I'm back for a while. Spent the last couple of days in Milwaukee. My dad is
- doing better, although it looks as though he's going to need a bit of therapy
- before getting back to his normal, feisty, self again. He suffered a mild
- stroke after what was supposed to be minor surgery. Sigh...
-
- "You're welcome" to all of you who offered a "best of luck". I really do
- appreciate it and I'll make sure to let him know about all of his "GEnie
- friends" here.
-
- My presence here may continue to be eradic so again, please bear with me for
- the next couple of weeks. Thanks.
-
- Cliff...
-
- Well, since my records indicate #00265, consider your serial number to be
- that. I have no one else on record for either 265 or 268, so what the heck.
- Something got messed up somewhere, I guess, but no big deal.
-
- Brian...
-
- The Flash II serial number is not something that others can really use since
- it's deeply embedded within the program. In order for someone to abuse
- Cliff's number, they'd have to get into my database and make changes. That's
- unlikely. Thanks for the concern though anyway.
-
- Hydraxxus...
-
- Glad to hear that version 2.1 is working great for you. Good deal. Yea, I'd
- LOVE to come to Hawaii, but right now I can't afford it. However, although
- this won't occur in May, I may be in Hawaii on business in August (my Real Job
- will be paying the way). Nothing is firmed up yet and I'm not even sure on
- which of the islands the meetings are to take place.
-
- Barry...
-
- In 2.1, Flash II now looks at the serial port to see if it's active. If F2
- thinks it is active, it then disables those other selections in the Phone menu
- until you terminate the "active" call. This was done for a number of reasons
- by request of a couple of the beta testers. I won't get into all of the
- details now (unless someone is interested), but generally, the reason for your
- problem is that F2 thinks it's online when it first boots up. Obviously you
- aren't online, so chances are your modem's DCD line condition is not set
- properly.
-
- If you have a newer modem, you'll probably have to change the DCD
- configuration using the &C1 mode. Assuming you have a Hayes compatible modem,
- this switch forces DCD to track the actual condition of the modem. (DCD =
- Data Carrier Detect) If your modem is online, the DCD line will be "active"
- and if the modem if offline, the DCD line will be "inactive". You can check
- the state of the &C switch by switching F2 to terminal mode and typing in
- AT&V. The modem should dump all of it's current mode and switch settings to
- the screen.
-
- If you've got an older modem, you may actually have to set a physical switch
- inside the modem. Your modem's operations manual will supply the details.
-
- Bud...
-
- Ymodem, batch or non-batch, is much slower than Zmodem. Generally speaking
- it's about half the speed. Remember, Ymodem is not much different from Xmodem
- in that every packet needs a reponse from the host before the next packet is
- sent. This greatly slows down the transfer rate. Zmodem, when set to
- streaming mode, does not need this packet handshaking, and therefore can reach
- the theoretical limits of your connection.
-
- Ymodem-G is another story. Ymodem-G is a streaming Ymodem protocol which can
- be as fast, or faster, than Zmodem. However, Ymodem-G has no built in error
- correction. If an error occurs, the protocol just cancels the transfer. You
- can use Ymodem-G for computer to computer transfers (using a null modem cable)
- or with error correcting modems.
-
- We're planning on a major revamping of the file transfer status box in the
- next full upgrade. We plan on making it a lot easier to read. BTW, with some
- protocols, it's impossible to display a "total bytes to download" because F2
- has no way of knowing that information. The older protocols like Xmodem do
- not send that information to the receiving computer. If we don't have it we
- can't display it! :-)
-
- R.NELSON48
-
- What Sloth said... I would also highly recommend that you change your GEnie
- "break" key to something other than Escape. F2 should send out the Escape
- keycode without any problem (there's a BBS I call regularly that looks for the
- escape key during logon, and it works just great) so I'm not sure what your
- problem is. Most everyone uses the standard "Control-C" break here, and you
- really ought to consider doing that as well. If you don't want to have to hit
- two keys, you can program a ^C into one of your function keys - say, F1 (right
- above the Escape key).
-
- Also, just as Sloth recommended, if you need to pause the incoming data so
- that you can read it, just press ^S to stop it, and ^Q to start it up again.
- And once again, you could program a "Control-S" and "Control-Q" into function
- keys to save from having to hit two keys on the keyboard.
-
- If your capture buffer continues to accept incoming data, but the terminal
- screen isn't displaying it, my guess is that somehow you've changed the text
- color in terminal mode to white. You may have white characters over a white
- background, which would be impossible to see.
-
- Frank...
-
- Glad to hear that you've solved your DX command problems.
-
- As I mentioned above, we are planning major changes to the transfer status
- window in a future upgrade (hopefully the next major upgrade). I agree
- regarding the Xmodem blocks display. That does need to be fixed. And yes, I
- do plan on having the status display in a GEM window. For MultiTOS purposes,
- this really needs to be in a window so that it can be moved around and resized
- while running other programs.
-
- TA Enter/Return Keys: Hmmm....well, I'll have to think about that I guess.
- The trouble is, the TA itself may see major changes in the next full upgrade
- too. Again, for MT purposes, we'll probably want to put this in a full window
- and also make it bigger than 3 lines (if that's what the user wants). Perhaps
- if the user sets the TA to 1 line, we could automatically make both the Return
- and Enter keys work the same - but if the TA is larger than 1 line, then kick
- in the options. We also plan on adding a TA history feature in the next
- upgrade.
-
- Color problem: Well, before we fix anything, I'm still not really sure just
- what your problem is or what's causing it. I do not use Neodesk 3.03 or the
- Neodesk control panel, however, I do use the Xcontol panel and have not had
- any problems with messed up colors in terminal mode. Most of our beta testers
- also use Xcontrol, and once again, we've had no complaints. I always boot F2
- in "light mode" as do most of our users, and again, no complaints.
-
- I see that you have your desktop colors reversed (white where black is and
- black where white is). Then you're setting F2 to "Light" background. What
- may be happening is that you've totally confused F2 as to what colors are
- what. There was a bug in 2.0 and 2.01 when choosing "Dark" background which
- is probably why this worked for you.
-
- I'll look into this and see if I can figure out something. If indeed there is
- a bug of some sort, we'll get it fixed in 2.2.
-
- Michael...
-
- If you are trying to log on automatically to GEnie, version 2.1 includes a
- GEnie logon script which should work just fine. All you need to do is enter
- your GEnie ID number and password into the "Logon ID" area in Edit Boards,
- enter your local phone number, and you'll be all set. I use the same script
- regularly without a problem.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 14 Sun Mar 28, 1993
- K.HULET [Ken] at 14:31 EST
-
- Received my upgrade yesterday and installed it no problem. GREAT support. I
- do have a problem dialing anything using F2 though. Whether I try dialing a
- board or dialing a number nothing seems to happen. I see a few LEDs blink on
- my Zoom 2400 but no dial tone and no dialing! Flash 1.60 and Aladdin work
- fine. There are so many options and configurations I have no idea what to
- change. Already tried sending &C1, still no luck. Any ideas?
-
- ..............Ken
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 15 Sun Mar 28, 1993
- BRIAN.H [ST~SysOp] at 14:57 EST
-
- I am glad your Dad feel better.
-
- The serial number warning is part of the service on GEnie [grin]. Some
- developer are annoyed over it being published. I knew you weren't since you
- left it in a message. It was just a reminder. I am glad you don't "need" it .
-
- Again, I hope your Dad continue to improve. Take care.
-
- *******Brian*********
- Written on Sunday 28 March 1993 at 03:39 p.m. AST
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 16 Sun Mar 28, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 21:23 EST
-
- R.Nelson48,
- Esc is not a good choice. Change it to Ctrl-C (which is what I use), or
- something similiar. As somone else suggested, it's probably causing your
- terminal to switch to VT100 or some other emulation which is in turn causing
- the text to be invisible in your terminal screen.
-
- Also which version of F-II are you using? If your still using the release
- version and haven't received the update yet then that could also be a problem.
- I do remember in the release version that what you describe concerning the
- invisible text and not being able to see what's happening was a more common
- thing.
-
- ---------
-
- K.HULET,
- What are your strings set to in the modem settings for F-II? I mean the
- command strings, not the error strings. :-) Depending on what you have in
- there it could cause a problem.
-
- Wayne
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 17 Sun Mar 28, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 21:58 EST
-
- Frank...
-
- Well, thanks for that wonderful story! :-) I really enjoyed it. Glad to hear
- too that 2.1 is working good for you!
-
- Silent Line... Hmmm...ok. Unfortunately, I don't have a MegaST4 to do any
- testing on, and I don't believe that any of our beta testers do either. It's
- very possible that the Silent Line "TT bug" also occurs on a MegaST4 -
- however, now that I think about it, I'd say the bug is probably tied more to
- the TOS version being run than the machine. By any chance, are you running
- TOS 2.06 on that machine? I don't think you'd see the problem with the old
- Mega TOS 1.02.
-
- Yes, the messeed up configuration is saved to the flash2.lst file, but only if
- you have "Auto Event Log" turned on in the Phone menu. If you don't want your
- .lst file to be updated (meaning that the statistics also won't be updated)
- then just turn "Auto Event Log" off. Your flash2.lst file will not be
- affected then.
-
- The reason you probably can't dial out anymore is because Flash II itself
- *really is* running at 5N2R F 50. I seriously doubt that your modem supports
- that baud rate! :-) The best way to reset is to reload your default file
- which brings your terminal back to where it should be.
-
- I tested Ymodem with and without Silent Line and I didn't notice much of a
- difference. Perhaps there's some specific mode that didn't get tested that
- affects the transfer rate. Generally speaking, I got a cps rate about half
- the theoretical maximum based on the baud rate (9600 baud: maximum 960 cps,
- actual ~450 cps). These tests took place on BIX via Tymnet. Naturally, the
- actual rate should be higher on a non-networked connection. It's possible
- that some Silent Line bug still exists regarding Ymodem, but I don't think so.
-
- Silent Line does still need some work. Right now it's the weakest link. We
- probably could have spent another month or two tweaking it, however, we didn't
- want to hold the release of 2.1 any more than we already had. We will
- continue to work on it though, so if you find anything specific, please post a
- note. And if you do, we'll need all of the important info on your connection -
- RS232 Options, Terminal Options, network or local BBS, file size, RTS/CTS
- mode, etc. That information is essential in trying to debug these types of
- problems.
-
- Thanks for all of the info Frank! I really appreciate it.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 18 Sun Mar 28, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 22:44 EST
-
- Hi Ken...
-
- You didn't mention this, but I assume that an earlier version of Flash II,
- like 2.0 or 2.01, did dial properly? Hmmmm....
-
- Quite honestly, I'm going to need a bit more information before this problem
- can be debugged. My first guess is that you aren't using a baud rate that
- permits communication with your modem. Switch to the terminal screen and
- check the status line at the top. If you are operating at 2400 baud, you
- should see something like "8N1 F 2400" up there. If the baud rate is set to
- something other than, say 1200 or 2400, your modem won't work.
-
- If that looks ok, try entering AT&V in the terminal. Press [Return]. Your
- modem should dump out a bunch of configuration data to the screen. If that
- works (assuming your modem supports the &V command, which it should) then F2
- and your modem are communicating.
-
- The next step is to check the RS232 Options dialog and Modem Options dialog
- (both found under the Options menu). Make sure that all of the RS232 options
- are set properly (as noted above - they probably should be set to 8N1 2400).
- Then check your Modem Options dialog. The program comes preconfigured for the
- Hayes command set, which your modem supports. Make sure that all of that
- stuff is programmed in there. You should see ATDT for the dial prefix, for
- instance. If none of the AT commands are present, somehow your flash2.def
- file is either missing or messed up. If that's the case, you'll need to reset
- all of this stuff. Let me know and I'll tell you what to enter (or check your
- modem users manual for details).
-
- Once you make it this far, let us know and we'll continue to help you work
- your way through this.
-
- Brian...
-
- Gotcha! :-) I figured your serial number warning was something official you
- had to do, but I just wanted everyone to know that it really didn't matter.
- Now, if they decide to start posting passwords, Visa/MasterCard numbers, etc.,
- _then_ I'll be concerned! :-)
-
- R.NELSON48 - I checked again and F2 does indeed send out the Escape code. I
- dialed into a BBS that uses a full screen ANSI editor this afternoon, and
- Escape is used to exit the editor. It worked just fine.
-
- Be that as it may, Escape is still a bad key to use for "breaking" here on
- GEnie. As you see, most folks are suggesting ^C, and as I posted earlier, you
- can program that into a function key to make sending it as easy as pressing
- Escape.
-
- John T.
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 21 Mon Mar 29, 1993
- F.GORON [Frank] at 23:21 EST
-
- John,
-
- About the color pallette problem - it does the same thing in both light and
- dark modes. With black and white reversed in either the Neodesk pallette (if I
- boot Neodesk) or in the Xcontrol pallette if I'm not using Neodesk, I get
- black on black in the terminal with light selected. And I get white on white
- in the dark mode. Let me know what info I can provide for you to see if we
- can track what might be happening.
-
- Frank
-
- PS. Sorry to hear about your father, hope he makes a speedy recovery.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 22 Mon Mar 29, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 23:28 EST
-
- Frank...
-
- I've now been able to recreate your palette problem so I've already sent a
- message to the author (Paul Nicholls) about it. Hopefully we'll have a fix
- real soon for you.
-
- Thanks for your input...
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 23 Tue Mar 30, 1993
- F.BELL1 [Frank @ Home] at 16:08 EST
-
- John,
-
- So thats what 'Auto Event Log' is for (RTFM Bell). I thought it was for
- something completely different. Great, one bug less - thats a real feature.
-
- Frank...
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 24 Tue Mar 30, 1993
- K.HULET [Ken] at 18:44 EST
-
- Thanks to everyone offering help to get F2 to dial out. So far no luck.
- Terminal Window status line shows 8N1 H 2400 for my Zoom 2400. Should be OK,
- right? And yes the AT&V does dump the config info out, but no dial tone, no
- dialing. Flash 1.60 and Aladdin work OK. I'm sure I'm missing something, guess
- I'm just too close to the problem.
-
- ..........Thanks, Ken
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 25 Tue Mar 30, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 22:22 EST
-
- Frank... :-)
-
- Yup - see p. 5-44 in the manual. Auto Event Log is explained in all of its
- glory there. Gee, I thought I mentioned that to you before. I hope I didn't
- forget.
-
- Ken...
-
- I'll tell you - I'm really stumped. If you are able to dump your modem config
- (AT&V) using F2, then certainly F2 is talking to your modem.
-
- Take a look at this. Go to 'Options|Modem' and see what value is entered for
- DCD Connect Time. Make sure that it's set to at least "30" seconds. If it
- is, then go to 'Phone|Edit Boards' and click on the board that's giving you
- the problem. When the 'Edit Boards' dialog opens, click on the 'Modem"
- button. Check DCD Connect time there too. Again, if it's anything less than
- 30 seconds, you'll have a problem.
-
- At this point the only thing I can think of is that you've got Connect Time
- set to something like 1 second. That's just enough time for F2 to send out
- the dial command, but after 1 second it immediately terminates the call.
-
- You may want to list all of your Modem Options here so that I can take a look
- to see if something is obviously wrong.
-
- Oh yea, also make sure that "Enabled" is selected in 'Modem Options'. If it
- isn't, F2 won't send out the Hayes command prefixes you see entered there
- which means your modem won't dial or do anything.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 27 Wed Mar 31, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 01:27 EST
-
- John,
- Maybe Ken should send you (I'd be willing also) his FLASH2.LST and
- FLASH2.DEF files? It might save some time in tracking down the problem.
- Maybe he should also send along the capture buffer of his AT&V command so we
- can be sure there isn't a problem with his modem configuration?
-
- Without actually seeing his setup it's hard to figure out what is happening.
- I did have a problem when I tried to set up an initialization string for the
- modem and did it wrong. Until I fixed it my modem wouldn't dial either. I'm
- guessing he probably has something askew in the modem strings.
-
- Wayne
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 28 Wed Mar 31, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 22:49 EST
-
- Wayne (and Ken)...
-
- Sure, I don't have any problem with that at all (sending the .lst and .def
- files for review). If that what it takes to get the problem solved, then
- certainly I'm willing to do that. In fact, I've done that quite a few times
- this past year for other users having problems.
-
- My only problem, at the moment, is the extreme lack of time due to the family
- problems discussed late last week. Although my Dad's condition is getting
- better, there's still a lot of phone traffic and chasing back and forth to
- Milwaukee (well, now Memononee Falls since he's been transfered there). It's
- really been cutting into my time.
-
- But yea, I want Ken to get his problem fixed, so let's have at it.
-
- BTW - for those of you not yet Flash II owners, you now have absolutely no
- reason to *at least* check out the program. Darlah, and the rest of our
- excellent GEnie ST RT sysops, have decided to release our new demo as a Treat
- of the Month! See the ST RT banner for more information.
-
- We're also planning an RTC sometime down the road so that you can ask any
- questions you may have about the demo or about the program in general. The
- dates have not been set yet, but again, it'll be announced in the banner when
- you log on. We'll make sure to post something here too.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 29 Thu Apr 01, 1993
- F.BELL1 [Frank @ Home] at 14:27 EST
-
- Ken,
-
- Try taking ALL moden initialization commands out of your F2 configurations,
- such as ATZ. Then try dailing out.
-
- Does your modem do anything, click? beep? buzz? do the dishes? If you hear
- nothing from your modem (and I would like to try THAT configuration out on the
- dog next store) and John's suggestions don't help then we are all at a loss.
- I forgot what version F2 you're using.
-
- Have you taken a look at your cable? Those is have 7 or 8 or use all 25
- lines?
-
- Frank...
-
- P.S. Wayne's idea isn't bad. As John is short on time, and we feel with you
- John, I'm willing to have a look at your files too. Just pack them, LZH or
- whatever, and drop them in EMail (remove any User Ids and Passwords first -
- you can leave your girl freind's telephone number in though).
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 30 Thu Apr 01, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 23:14 EST
-
- Ken sent me his files although I doubt that I'll be able to look at them until
- Sunday...
-
- If anyone else has any suggestions - go for it!
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 32 Sat Apr 03, 1993
- H.SCHEIE [HALS] at 10:11 EST
-
- I mailed my reg card last week and have yet to get the upgrade. Did you get
- the card and if so whats my status? Thanks Hal Scheie
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 33 Sat Apr 03, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 13:17 EST
-
- Hal...
-
- Yes, I received your regi card, but no, I haven't sent out your upgrade yet.
- With all of this chasing back and forth to Milwaukee that I'm doing, I'm
- afraid I'm getting a tad behind. I'm going to try to send out another batch
- on Monday.
-
- Larry...
-
- Regarding your Flash II question posted over in Cat 24 Topic 2...
-
- Set path/file function: You can set two separate paths using script commands
- either within a short DO script, or from the terminal command line. To set a
- path for saving text and such that you enter into the capture buffer, use the
- DPath command. To set a path for uploading and downloading, use the DXpath
- command. These commands are used either with a script or from the command
- line as follows:
-
- >DP c:\textpath\|
- >DX c:\xferpath\|
-
- You can also do this stuff manually. Let's say you enter some text in the
- capture buffer. To save it to a particular path, just click on "Save File"
- from the File menu, set your path using the file selector, and you're all set.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 34 Sat Apr 03, 1993
- C.HAYWARD [Clar] at 19:52 EST
-
- John T...I downloaded the demo today and finally DX works for me.
-
- Do you remember an early problem with ANSI and Warp 9?
-
- I can get ANSI displays only if I turn Warp 9 screen acceleration off then on
- again after running the capture review.
-
- I think I sent you the captures from a couple boards last year.
-
- It's still a problem with the FLASH II demo.
-
- I'm using Warp 9 3.60, so it may be OK with newer versions.
-
-
- Clar
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 35 Sat Apr 03, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 20:02 EST
-
- John,
- I'm going to try and be here for the RTC, but I'm changing work shifts and
- most likely stations at the firehouse late next week. I haven't looked at
- what my new schedule is going to be. Once I know for sure I can let you know
- if I'm going to be able to make it or not.
-
- Glad to hear your Dad's condition is improving.
-
- If Ken has no objections, you could send me the files John and I'll take a
- look at them and get back to you and Ken.
-
- Wayne
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 36 Sun Apr 04, 1993
- B.CONNOLLY1 [Bud] at 13:47 EDT
-
- John T. and Ken
-
- Don't know if you have tried this yet, but I had a similar problem for dialing
- out, no go, until I put two commas after ATZ on the Initialize String in the
- modem options. Everything would just sit there, no dial tone, nothing. See
- page 5-64.
-
- Bud
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 37 Sun Apr 04, 1993
- R.BINGHAM2 [Da Sloth] at 17:48 EDT
-
- Here's one to watch out for. I was just uploading messages on GEnie when
- suddenly GEnie stopped accepting my messages. I did a *UP and hit control-Z
- (my break character) but GEnie wouldn't take the message. It just sat there
- looking stupid! I hit my break a few more times and got the 'break
- acknowledge' message, but it still wouldn't do anything.
-
- I found the reason just now. The messages I was uploading had control-S
- characters still in them! Seems those make GEnie's message loader get a bit
- mangled in the head. (Errr, make that a bit MORE mangled in the head. ;)
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 38 Sun Apr 04, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 18:06 EDT
-
- Bud,
- I thought it might be something like that. Because of this problem I've
- left the initialize string blank on all my boards. Normally I don't see a
- need for it. I can put any changes I want into the dial string itself.
- Usually all I need is to turn compression on/off, and possibly lock the modem
- so it will only connect at the speed set in the RS232 as opposed to connecting
- at the highest possible rate (I have a 14,400 Supra)
-
- Something that worked for me with Aladdin that I didn't try in F-II is to
- put a CR at the end of the initialize string instead of counting on F-II to do
- it. Until I did that in Aladdin it would send the dial string before the
- modem was reset from the ATZ command. After I put the CR into the init string
- in Aladdin (using Ctrl-M) the modem would reset and dial out properly.
-
- Wayne
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 39 Sun Apr 04, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 22:09 EDT
-
- Hi Clar...
-
- First of all, you should have received version 2.1 by now if you are properly
- registered as a Flash II owner. Version 2.1 and the demo are the same, except
- that the demo has a bunch of stuff disabled.
-
- Anyway, there are no longer any problems between Warp 9 and Flash II in
- version 2.1. I use ANSI regularly with 2.1 and everything works great. There
- is no longer a need to toggle W9 off and on. You should upgrade W9 to the
- latest version, which I think is 3.75. I haven't checked to see if the ANSI
- problem exists in the demo, but it really shouldn't since it no longer exists
- in 2.1.
-
- If you haven't received 2.1 in the mail and you think you are registered,
- contact me by email. Send me your serial number and I'll check the database.
-
- Wayne...
-
- Sure - let me know your new schedule. I'd love to have you (and everyone
- else) around for the RTC. It should be a fun time!
-
- BTW, I think I've solved Ken's problem. I just got done looking at his files
- and they wouldn't permit dialing with my modem either. I've already sent Ken a
- reply in email, but basically he had two problems. First of all, he is
- sending a very long init string. Apparently his modem takes awhile to process
- this, and it was loosing the "atdt" command, which F2 sends immediately after
- the init string. (It took my modem about 3 seconds to process the sequence.) I
- added a couple of pauses (commas) after the string, and everything started
- working just fine. The second problem wasn't as serious, but it wasn't
- necessary either. He added a comma (pause) after the "atdt" command. I'm
- hoping that after he makes these changes, everything will start to work for
- him.
-
- Ken... make sure to let us know, ok?
-
- Just read your second message Wayne... I've always used a comma or two to
- force a pause, but perhaps an extra CR would do the same thing. Hmmmm.....
-
- Sloth...
-
- How did the message you were uploading get ^S characters in them in the first
- place? Actually though, I'm surprised that GEnie would barf on that,
- especially during an uploaded message. I can understand why GEnie would stop
- input during a non-uploaded message. Strange...
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 40 Mon Apr 05, 1993
- M.MASTALER [Mike] at 02:50 EDT
-
- John, ... I am trying to use the function keys in the macro section.
- When I log on to a BBS, (full duplex ) I hit my function key to send
- my first and last name, and nothing happens. What am I doing wrong ?
- My function key was written like this: >MICHAEL MASTALER|
-
- My understanding was to use the ">" and "|" characters at the
- beginning and end of a macro.
- Thanks in advance. >Mike| <G>.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 41 Mon Apr 05, 1993
- SFRT-ASST [Kenne@SFRT] at 03:09 EDT
-
- In the _old_ Flash you just told the program to execute the command ">MICHAEL
- MASTALER|".
-
- In order to send text you need to use the SEND command. ">SEND"
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 42 Mon Apr 05, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 18:48 EDT
-
- >Wayne...
- >
- >Sure - let me know your new schedule. I'd love to have you (and everyone
- >else) around for the RTC. It should be a fun time!
-
- I should find out within the next couple days unless the decision gets
- delayed on their (the Chief) end. It was supposed to happen last week, but
- got delayed because they all (the Chief and the 4 deputies) couldn't agree on
- who was going where. It always happens when transfer time rolls around
- (usually when promotions and/or retirements/new employees come around). All
- the deputies are trying to get rid of their dead wood, and steal the good
- people from the other deputies. I am one of the "good" people. I was loaned
- to my present shift last year due to excessive openings on one shift due to
- retirements with the understanding that when the new recruits started I would
- go back to my old shift. My new deputy however liked me so much he held onto
- me through trickery when some new people came on 6 months ago. Boy was my old
- deputy PO'ed! :-)
-
- >Just read your second message Wayne... I've always used a comma or two to
- >force a pause, but perhaps an extra CR would do the same thing. Hmmmm.....
-
- I think what happens is that the CR in the string starts the modem doing
- it's reset and puts the CTS line low so that the computer can't send any
- commands. That way either the program waits, or the dial command sits in the
- output buffer until the modem is ready to accept data and sets the CTS line
- back.
- That worked with Aladdin. My old 2400 baud modem didn't need the CR because
- the reset time was very fast, but the newer high speed modems take a bit
- longer to reset via the ATZ command. Mine takes about 2-4 seconds to reset.
-
- --------
-
- Mike,
- As SFRT said, you should use >SEND "MICHAEL MASTALER"| to send the string.
- Either that, or leaving off the > might work in your example. I.E. Use
- MICHAEL MASTALER| which may also work. I know it used to on Flash 1.6, but I
- don't recall if it does in F-II. I know that works in .DO files, but I don't
- have any examples of that in my function keys so I'm not 100% sure it would
- work there.
-
- Wayne
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 44 Mon Apr 05, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 22:10 EDT
-
- Mike...
-
- Ken and Wayne beat me to the punch. They are both correct. There are two
- ways to send a string within a function key:
-
- >SEN "MICHAEL MASTALER"|
- "MICHAEL MASTALER"|
-
- I generally use the second form since it saves me from having to type a few
- extra letters! (Am I lazy or what???)
-
- You need a '>' only at the beginning of commands, such as SEND, WAIT, PAUSE,
- etc. The '>' tells the Flash II parser to expect a command name next.
- "MICHAEL" is not a command name, which is why the command failed. The status
- line at the top of the terminal screen should have warned you of the error.
-
- Wayne...
-
- Gee - politics at the old fire house, eh? <smirk> Sounds like you've got a
- good boss though, and that's important these days. Also sounds like you enjoy
- your work!
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 45 Mon Apr 05, 1993
- R.BINGHAM2 [Da Sloth] at 22:38 EDT
-
- John T: I got the ^S in by using ^S/^Q when reading messages. Then, when I
- wrote up my reply off-line, I quoted a passage that happened to have a ^S in
- it.
-
-
- I just noticed yesterday that sometimes bell characters don't ring. Haven't
- been able to repeat it yet, though....
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 46 Tue Apr 06, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 22:43 EDT
-
- Sloth...
-
- Ah - so YOU put those characters in the text! :-) Now I get it!
-
- Uh, the bell characters aren't really "bell" characters. When you see a bell
- character in the capture, that's really a line feed character. Press ^G in
- the editor. You'll see that the bell character is actually the character that
- you see in the upper right corner of a GEM window - the "full" button.
-
- Now, you ask, why are these characters displayed this way? Heck, I don't
- know! You'll have to ask the folks at Atari why they mapped these characters
- where they did.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 48 Wed Apr 07, 1993
- F.GORON [Frank] at 22:00 EDT
-
- Mike,
-
- I believe one other method could be used to send a string.
-
- Instead of using the "Send" command or enclosing the string in quotes, you
- should be able to follow the string with a carriage return, which is produced
- by Control-M
-
- for example: MICHAEL MASTALER"cr"
-
- where the "cr" would be replaced by Control-M. Oh, I almost forgot, you'd
- follow the Control-M with the "|" character.
-
- John T,
-
- I came across a really tiny little thing but you & Paul might want to take a
- look at it. Whenever I call up the RS232 options dialog, then when I'm done
- with it, if I click on OK with the mouse there's no problem. But if I hit
- Return or Enter, about 4 or 5 LF's get sent to the Capture. No biggie, but I
- thought you might like to know.
-
- Frank
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 49 Wed Apr 07, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 22:50 EDT
-
- Wayne...
-
- Well, I have to say I enjoyed your post. Sounds almost as much fun as working
- at CBS!!!
-
- Frank...
-
- We've been fighting that RS232 Options dialog thing since day one. This
- appears to be caused by a conflict within TOS itself and involves the rsconf()
- call, which we use for setting up the port. You can get this same effect in a
- few other places as well, but I'll leave it up to you to figure out where! :-
- ) Try as we might, we haven't been able to get rid of this problem. It
- really doesn't cause anything serious to occur, but it is annoying. We're in
- the process of redoing this dialog and the code that it drives for support of
- all of the serial ports (as well as permitting higher speed port access).
- Perhaps this "problem" will go away when we get that finished.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 50 Thu Apr 08, 1993
- M.MASTALER [Mike] at 03:17 EDT
-
- Thanks all; will try out the "SEND" command . Mike
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 52 Fri Apr 09, 1993
- B.CONNOLLY1 [Bud] at 23:12 EDT
-
- John Trautschold
-
- Hope your dad is up and around soon.
-
- I have a couple of questions. Do you know of any reason why FLASH II 2.1 would
- bomb (two of them) whenever I start Flash and my modem is not turned on?
- Unfortunately, this is VERY repeatable. And, what does AUTO EVENT LOG really
- do? My boards seem to update without it checked, and I could no get into the
- plant security modem (You know the one I mean, nuke plant...) and as soon as I
- turned this off, the problem went away. One last question, the plant computers
- are VAX 11/780's and I have double high/double wide characters on the welcome
- message, these are often times garbled when I log in. I went with 8 bit
- characters and that seemed to help for awhile, but now they are garbled again.
- This is not serious, just a curiosity.
-
- Bud Connolly
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 53 Sat Apr 10, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 02:08 EDT
-
- Hi Bud...
-
- Yea, thanks for asking. My Dad is doing a bit better day by day. The therapy
- seems to be doing the trick. We're going up to visit again on Easter Sunday.
-
- On to your questions. First of all, no, I can't imagine why F2 2.1 would bomb
- when you boot it without the modem turned on. Interestingly, I had one other
- person call to say the same thing happened to him, but only when the modem was
- turned *on* when he booted F2. F2 does go out and look at the serial port
- when it first wakes up to see if the port is active. If it determines that it
- is active, then it sets itself (terminal mode) up to whatever the port
- settings happen to be at the time.
-
- Are you using any external serial port programs, such as serialfix? These
- types of programs might cause a conflict, and they are unnecessary with F2
- since F2 takes total control over the port and solves any of the problems
- programs like serialfix fix.
-
- As usual, try booting F2 without any auto folder programs or desk accessories
- to see if the problem remains. I've booted 2.1 with all different modem
- configurations (on, off, online, to another computer with a null modem, etc.)
- and I haven't had any problems at all.
-
- Regarding your second question, Auto Event Log, when checked in the Phone
- Menu, it causes F2 to keep track of your online statistics via your flash2.lst
- file. When it's turned off (not checked) it doesn't keep track of your
- statistics. The statistics are written to the file when you terminate your
- call.
-
- You say you couldn't log into your plant security modem when AEL was turned
- on? Are you operating from a floppy or a hard drive? When AEL is turned on,
- when the board you are calling first connects, F2 reads information out of the
- flash2.lst file. This slight delay may be causing the problem in logging in.
- When AEL is turned off this delay does not occur.
-
- Weren't you the one that sent me the double-high VTxxx characters a long time
- ago? That problem should have been fixed. Do these characters extend across
- all 80 columns of the display? If so, I'll bet that you have word wrap and
- cursor wrap turned on for your Terminal Options for that board. If they are
- on, turn them off and I'll bet that your problem goes away. If that isn't the
- problem, then please email me a capture of the garbled welcome message so that
- we can fix (or at least investigate) the problem. We're working on a 2.11
- upgrade to fix these kinds of small problems that have cropped up. You
- probably will need to set your terminal to 8 bit characters and control codes.
-
- John T.
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 56 Sat Apr 10, 1993
- B.CONNOLLY1 [Bud] at 14:26 EDT
-
- John T.
-
- Ignore the second post of my message, I've been having a LOT of trouble with
- GEnie Friday night and Saturday morning (4/9-10). I got a lot of garbage on
- the line Friday, and Saturday, it just sat there. Good thing I was watching!
-
- No, I am not using Serialfix, just Tosfix and Poolfix. I am running off a hard
- drive (Megafile 30). As for the double high, double wide characters, that
- problem is intermittant. They worked just fine last night. I check the wraps,
- I'm pretty sure word wrap is off.
-
- Bud
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 57 Sat Apr 10, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 18:58 EDT
-
- Hi Bud...
-
- You no longer need to use TOSFIX with F2. I don't think you need it with
- Aladdin either since we both go directly to the serial port for control. It
- shouldn't cause a problem with either program, however, it is just so much
- extra baggage.
-
- It's strange that the double high/wide problem is intermittant. It doesn't
- seem likely that F2 would be able to display this sometimes, but not other
- times. I really don't have more of an answer for you at this point. Is there
- something you do differently sometimes to your system than others? If so, and
- if these changes track the problem, then you've found a relationship.
-
- FOR EVERYONE: I've noticed lately that the message count displayed during the
- deader for this topic does not always match the actual message count. For
- instance, when I logged on this afternoon, the header said "3 new messages.",
- but the only one I found was the one from Bud. There was no line noise or any
- other problem.
-
- My question, I guess is, is there a bug floating around in the GEnie software.
- Is this only affecting this particular cat/topic? Am I _really_ missing
- messages? I've noticed this more than once lately and my main concern is that
- I'm not missing someone's message.
-
- Has anyone else noticed this? Sysops - can this be checked into please?
- Thanks.
-
- Happy Easter everyone! And thanks for your support of Flash II. I really
- appreciate it! :-)
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 61 Sun Apr 11, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 01:45 EDT
-
- Brian...
-
- Thanks. Interestingly, this time when I logged on I got "3 new messages."
- and, in fact, there were three new messages! :-) Strange...
-
- Clar...
-
- Yea, I've seen that a lot with forwarded messages also. I've always kinda
- figured that was just some weird message forwarding problem. In this case
- though, no messages were forwarded (that I'm aware of) to this topic.
-
- BTW - received your disk today for upgrade. The upgrade is done and it'll go
- back in the mail on Monday. Hope you enjoy the new version! You are now in
- the database too! :-)
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 62 Sun Apr 11, 1993
- POTECHIN [Nathan] at 09:58 EDT
-
- No mystery John. If I started typing at you live, like I'm doing right now,
- and I realize that instead of waking up I must have been still sleeping and
- typed "this program grates on my nerves" rather than what I meant to say "this
- is a great program" and then *Sent it semi-consciously JUST as I realized
- what I had done. Ohmygoodness, ARGGHH. As the author, I have the ability to
- delete my message which I would then do immediately. Then I would attempt to
- type it back in properly and then *Save it again. If you then got here to read
- you would encounter the "2 new messages" when in fact, there was only one.
- This is the most common reason for the misleading new message message. ;-) The
- second most common is when I get mad and start typing all those words that I'm
- not allowed to use like *)&^*(&%&^$$^ and _*&%^&*^%^%$^% which Brian then
- deletes on sight, again throwing off your new message count. ;-)
-
- Aren't you glad you asked? ;-)
-
- Nathan (Atari RT Sysop)
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 63 Sun Apr 11, 1993
- B.STOREY [Billy B.] at 11:26 EDT
-
- John, the message count includes the intro's, also.
-
- I sent off my order yesterday.
-
- Bill
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 64 Sun Apr 11, 1993
- C.GRIMSBY at 11:31 EDT
-
- Hi! I downloaded the Flash2 demo, but I'm having some problems with it on
- my TT in TT Medium resolution.
-
- The editor portion works fine, but the online side is un-useable, and I've
- been unable to evaluate it.
-
- The problem, I'm sure, is with my color set up, which admittedly is rather
- "weird". I've got my colors reversed so I get white text on a black
- background. Here's my color line from my NEWDESK.INF file:
-
- #c7770007000600070055200505552220770557075055507703111103
-
- (At least, I _think_ that's the color line. It's been a _long_ time since
- I've played with desktop.inf or newdesk.inf files!)
-
- Anyways, I've tried both the Light and Dark settings in the terminal menu, but
- it doesn't seem to matter. All I get, except occasionally, is the corner $
- and clock, which shows up in red. Sometimes, usually the first time, I get a
- black screen. No cursor (reguardless of cursor settings in the terminal menu)
- and text comming in from the modem does not show up. (It's there in the
- editor though, so I know the connection is there.)
-
- Right after I change the colors (using COLOR.CPX and switching to "bank 1") to
- be a white background and black text, and the terminal menu set for dark
- background, I _do_ get the top line display (capture size, line settings, $
- and clock), until I got back to the editor. Subsequent flips to the online
- "window"(?) give me a white screen without the status line or incomming text.
- Changing the light/dark setting in the terminal menu doesn't make the text and
- status line show up. I do still get the corner $ and clock, and the
- background does change to reflect the setting.
-
- Going back to the COLOR.CPX, the colors in "bank 1" have changed to be those
- in bank 0. Switching back to bank 0 then again to bank 1 fixes that, so at
- least that's not a problem! When I go back to the online window, I've got
- text again, and the colors I want, until I go back to the editor and then the
- whole thing starts all over again. <sigh>
-
- I don't know if this is a problem with Flash2, my settings and/or
- understanding of the program, or just a problem with the demo version of
- Flash2. I'm rather interested in getting a new terminal program, as my old
- Flash! (v 1.6) doesn't work in TT resolutions and I must admit I'm rather
- tired of switching to ST High res whenever I want/need to use a terminal
- program. With the text disappearing every time I switch back and forth from
- the editor to online though, it's a little hard to evaluate. I tend to do a
- lot of switching back and forth to edit/quote/edit/reply in my BBS use.
-
- Thanks in advance for any help you can give me on this problem.
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 65 Sun Apr 11, 1993
- A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt] at 12:16 EDT
-
- John,
-
- I've noticed the message-count bug (or whatever it is) also. I've been
- assuming that it is counting the topic-header message, adding 1 to the count,
- but now I realize this can't be the case.
-
- BTW, that's interesting, not needing TOSFIX with F2. Towns sort of indicated
- it was needed with all operations on STs with those versions of TOS that had
- that little bug. I'm not even sure that TOSFIX takes up any space in RAM,
- since it's just a patch, so it may not be the best advice to avoid it with F2;
- after all, if you exit F2 and run some other application that doesn't have
- F2's port-handling routines, you could be in trouble....
-
- Al
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 67 Sun Apr 11, 1993
- A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt] at 14:18 EDT
-
- FLASHER.PRG, available I the library, lets you set the colors used by Flash,
- and I'm sure it will work just as well with F2 if you either rename F2 to
- FLASH.PRG or edit FLASHER with EdHack or another binary editor to run any
- other program.
-
- FLASHER works fine in TT Medium. I'll try editing it in binary mode and see
- what happens...
-
- ...
-
- No, it just bombs, both when I rename F2 to FLASH.PRG and when I edit FLASHER
- so that it looks for FLASH2.
-
- You might try using a boot utility such as SuperBoot to create a NEWDESK.INF
- file that has normal colors for F2, with your normal colors otherwise.
-
- Al
-
- (John, looks like Aladdin decided to post my earlier msg twice. Must have been
- important enough to show again! If I could just get my delete-msg script
- workking....)
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 68 Sun Apr 11, 1993
- B.MENAGH [Bill] at 16:59 EDT
-
- Thanks for the most recent upgrade to Flash2. I've tried to load it and have
- had success. I've edited and saved the dial boards successfully.
- Unfortunately I can't seem to switch from terminal mode back to edit mode. I
- get a busy bee cursor that seemes rather shakey and when I move the mouse,
- four bombs crash my ST MEGA4. I have not dietiezed the appropriate files as
- instructed. Any suggestions regarding what is happening? Thanks in advance for
- any help.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 69 Sun Apr 11, 1993
- B.CONNOLLY1 [Bud] at 17:55 EDT
-
- John T.
-
- No bug, that was me! I tried uploading my questions to GEnie on Friday
- night, but go hung up and Aladdin thought that the message was still waiting
- to be uploaded. The friendly Sysops delted that message. So, you had one for
- the header, one for the message you did see, and one for the deleted message.
-
- About TOSFIX, it also fixes a problem shel_find, albeit, supposedly rare, I'll
- haul the baggage :^)
-
- I'll try to keep an eye on the Double/Doubles, they are working very well
- right now though.
-
- Oh, and thanks for hot tip on Warp 9/Flash II compatibility with the 2.1
- version. Things are just a bit quicker now that I have Warp 9 back on.
-
- Bud Connolly
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 70 Sun Apr 11, 1993
- B.WILLIS3 [Bill] at 19:48 EDT
-
- C.Grimsby,
- Coincidentally, I had the exact same problem with Flash II the other day.
- Every time I'd go to the terminal screen the colors would get screwed up and I
- couldn't see anything.
- The only reason I could come up with is that I had just set up Warp 9 to use
- a .PNT picture as a desktop background. I assume that loading that picture
- replaced a color palette somewhere, and that's why I kept getting black type
- on a black background.
- Anything sound familiar there?
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 71 Sun Apr 11, 1993
- C.HAYWARD [Clar] at 19:52 EDT
-
- J.TRAUTSCHOL..Message 61
-
- Thanks, John.
-
- Clar
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 72 Sun Apr 11, 1993
- R.BINGHAM2 [Da Sloth] at 20:05 EDT
-
- ON the bell character a few weeks back....
-
- I'm not talking about bell shapes in my capture buffer, silly person! I'm
- talking about when a Control-G gets sent to you over the terminal. (Like when
- moving on to a free flagged page.) Most of the time you hear the bell chime.
- Once I noticed that F2 had stopped doing that. (The sound was working fine
- since I could hear the keyclick 'clicks' through the monitor speaker.) I
- haven't gotten the bug to repeat yet, so I guess it's a pretty rare critter.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 73 Sun Apr 11, 1993
- F.GORON [Frank] at 21:48 EDT
-
- Gang,
-
- On the color pallette problem - I mentioned this to John T. about a week ago &
- he checked it out & said that there was indeed a little bug that crept into
- 2.1 (don't know about the demo but if it's based on the 2.1 program it's a
- safe bet that it's the same bug), and that he was going to get Paul (the
- programmer) right on it. I've always had black & white switched in all my
- pallettes,both in Xcontrol & in Neodesk. If I had either activated the
- problem in F2 would show up. The only thing I could get to work for me was to
- either boot w/o either one, or else set up alternate Neodesk .INF files with
- the white & black switched back to their "normal" positions, and to do the
- same in Xcontrol for when I ran F2 outside of Neodesk.
-
- John,
-
- In the next update would it be possible to be able to configure the dollar &
- clock displays in the terminal mode? As far as I can tell they can't be
- configured. I'd like to be able to switch either on/off independently & also
- to be able to switch the clock between time online and time of day. That last
- thing might be possible, since it was in Flash 1 but I'll have to look around
- some more in the manual.
-
- Frank
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 74 Sun Apr 11, 1993
- F.GORON [Frank] at 21:54 EDT
-
- In fact, what I'd REALLY like is to be able to display both time online and
- time of day at the same time & drop the dollars. Perhaps you can give us the
- two display slots & allow us to fill in the displays of our choice, among
- dollars,time online,time of day,perhaps some other choices might also come to
- mind.
-
- frank
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 75 Sun Apr 11, 1993
- B.WILLIS3 [Bill] at 22:21 EDT
-
- Is there a known bug in v2.1 that makes the backspace key unusable in the type-
- ahead buffer? I can only edit the buffer using the cursor keys; the backspace
- doesn't properly erase characters. (Very un-GEnie-like) Anyway, I never
- noticed this happening until I installed 4 megs of TT RAM. Before that, I was
- using only ST RAM. Can that have something to do with it? (It doesn't seem to
- matter whether I'm running Flash II in ST or TT RAM.)
-
- I remember reading here about something like that, but I don't remember if it
- was this version or the last one. <?>
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 76 Sun Apr 11, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 23:13 EDT
-
- Nathan...
-
- Ah, ok, yea, I understand! :-) In other words, the message count doesn't
- really accurately represent the number of active messages - just the number of
- messages that were attempted (or something like that!).
-
- C.GRIMSBY...
-
- Ah, another one of those that reverses the white and black colors, eh? :-)
- Unfortunately, we discovered a bug in 2.1, which also affects the demo, in
- cases like this. What happens is F2 is forcing the text color to black in all
- cases, when it should be using the proper color palette. When you change your
- background to black, F2 tracks that, but ends up putting black text over a
- black background. We're working on a fix for that which will appear in version
- 2.11, a patch that will be uploaded here.
-
- <smirk> You guys must like looking at film negatives too! <grin>
-
- Al...
-
- Townsend is right that TOSFIX is needed for programs that access the port via
- the OS. However, F2 controls the port directly through interrupts and in
- essance, we grab the interrupt vectors away from TOSFIX. This was not the
- case with version 2.0. AAMOF, we initially shipped F2 with TOS14FX2.PRG to
- solve RTS/CTS problems which we did handle via the OS at that time. As you
- know now though, F2 handles that directly.
-
- Bill...
-
- When switching back and forth between the editor and the terminal, the cursor
- should just disappear (in terminal mode) and reappear in the editor. It
- should not be switching to the busy bee at all during this process.
-
- My first suggestion is the usual one to boot F2 on a clean system. It sounds
- to me like something is interfering with F2, like an auto folder program or
- DA.
-
- I haven't had any other complaints about a problem like this. Keep in touch
- and let me know if you make any progress. It's possible you have a corrupted
- copy of the program, although that's doubtful.
-
- Bud...
-
- Ah, so you were my GEnie bug! :-) I think I understand the process GEnie
- uses now and it makes sense. I think...
-
- Sloth...
-
- Well, you *did* say the "bell character", right? :-) I figured you meant the
- actual character shaped like a bell! <snicker>
-
- Anyway, I'm glad that the bell is working ok for you now. I get lots of
- little dings while I'm online and hadn't noticed a problem. Let's hope
- whatever caused yours is now gone!
-
- Frank...
-
- Thanks for the suggestions. We've already had other similar requests for the
- ability to switch between an online timer and a clock display in the terminal
- mode. It's on the list for our next feature upgrade release.
-
- I'll also add the suggestion to be able to separately display the dollar and
- clock displays.
-
- Bill...
-
- Turn Rubout off in Terminal mode. Backspace should work fine then in the TA.
- There is a bug that's already fixed in our beta 2.11.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 77 Mon Apr 12, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 20:33 EDT
-
- John,
- The message about the Time and charges line reminded me of something I've
- been meaning to ask. Is there any chance of getting an option in the rates
- section so that you can put down the hourly charge instead of a per minute
- charge? Most online services like GEnie, Delphi, etc charge by the hour. It
- would save us trying to figure out the per minute charge for that and let F-II
- figure it for us. On Delphi it's $1 an hour for my plan, so it comes out to
- 1.66666...... cents per minute. Since F-II only allows us to put in whole
- cents per minute it wouldn't be very accurate in this case. 1 cent would show
- an unrealisticly low charge, and 2 cents per minute would show almost a 33%
- overcharge.
-
- Wayne
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 78 Tue Apr 13, 1993
- J.GERMAN3 [Hydraxxus] at 00:13 EDT
-
- John,
- Since recieving my upgrade I still have yet to use another term program,
- great job One question I do have is about sound. What support can there be for
- sound Other than the bell in script files? I like hearing when my downloads
- are done and miss it. Guess I'll have to get to work on a new scrip!
-
- Hydraxxus
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 79 Tue Apr 13, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 19:06 EDT
-
- Hi Wayne...
-
- I think your suggestion already appears on our "to-do" list. I'll remind Paul
- about that anyway.
-
- Paul and I had discussed your proposal some time ago. I think what we'd
- decided way back then was to make it an option to either enter $/min or
- $/hour. I'm not sure if we ever came up with a way to easily do that, but it
- was discussed.
-
- And speaking of the charges information, I should remind everyone that
- generally speaking you only need to enter information in one column of each
- set. The set's include $/min and $/KB. There are two sets of those columns,
- one for peak charges and one for off peak.
-
- I just got done helping a customer over on another service. He'd entered the
- cost (00.21) in both the $/min and $/KB columns, and was wondering why F2
- wasn't properly tracking the charges. He should have only entered 00.21 in
- the $/min column.
-
- F2 tracks charges two ways - by time and by quantity. When he entered 21
- cents in both columns, F2 not only added the 21 cents for each minutes, but
- also added 21 cents for each 1024 bytes on incoming text. If you read text as
- it is received, you can easily get between 4K and 5K of data in a minute. At
- 21 cents per each K, F2 was tracking his charges at over $1 per minute! By
- having him change his setup to just $/min, everything started working ok.
-
- As Wayne says, most online commercial services charge by the hour or minute
- and do not charge for the number of bytes of data received. Leave $/KB set to
- 00.00 and you should be fine.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 80 Tue Apr 13, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 22:22 EDT
-
- Hydraxxus...
-
- I'm glad you like Flash II!
-
- Right now there is no support for anything other than the bell. There are two
- bell commands, B1 & B2. B1 rings the bell once and B2 rings it until a key is
- pressed to stop it. That's not a bad idea though to add other types of sounds
- to the program. I guess we'll have to look into that. Thanks. Are there any
- types of sounds in particular you'd like for us to include?
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 83 Thu Apr 15, 1993
- J.DINGA at 23:16 EDT
-
- I have v2.1, and am very pleased to finally have some bugs quashed since
- leaving it on the shelf after buying it at ACE'92 buying it at ACE'92
- (ser#0288) :) I have a MeagaSTE 4/50 with a Crazy Dot DDots 8 graphincs
- card and have experienced recurring 'insufficient space' on disk' DL aborts,
- even though there is plenty of room on either the floppy or the hard disk.
- Also I _only once_ had a situation where my capture buffer shrunk from 3000+K
- to 53K in the blink of an eye. I wonder if its only me and and my setup, or
- anyone else? Thanks, and BTW, FLASH II looks nice on a 19"
- monitor...........:) Jon
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 85 Fri Apr 16, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 19:24 EDT
-
- Jon,
- Does the DL abort partway through, or right at the beginning? That almost
- sounds like a bug that was squashed in 2.1. If it's starting right at the
- very beginning of the DL then check your DXPATH setting and make sure it is a
- valid path. DXPATH is the path for file transfers.
-
- I've never had any problem with the capture buffer suddenly shrinking, so
- that's a new one to me. Maybe it's got something to do with the 19"
- monitor/driver/screen mem????
-
- Wayne
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 86 Sat Apr 17, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 00:16 EDT
-
- Jon...
-
- I recall one other person complaining about something similar to your problem.
- I don't recall if we ever came up with any concrete solution, other than what
- Wayne already mentioned. Make sure you are using a valid path - if you are
- entering a path and such from the command line, it's very easy to mistakenly
- enter something wrong. I've done it myself many times.
-
- If you are using the command line, try starting the download by forcing up the
- file selector. You can do that by entering only the download command followed
- by the protocol. For example, for a Zmodem download, enter only "dl zm" and
- press return. You can then use the file selector to set the path.
-
- Are you using Data Diet? If so, F2 could be getting confused over the amount
- of storage its got available. I don't use DD myself though, so can't confirm
- that.
-
- I've never seen the capture buffer shrink down like that. Since it only
- happened once, let's hope it doesn't happen again! :-)
-
- BTW, if you have F2 grabbing all of your memory for the capture, you may want
- to change that to something less than "ALL". Generally, you don't need 3000+
- K of capture. If you are running the XControl Panel it'll need some of that
- memory you are grabbing (unless all of your CPX's are resident). I usually
- grab about 1 meg of ram on my TT and that's more than sufficient.
-
- Yup - I use F2 on my TTM195 all of the time. It is nice! :-)
-
- Brian...
-
- Gee - I wonder what that new term program might be? Uh, let me guess...
- <smirk>
-
- Ah, so the tunes are built in. OK. Guess I'll have to put some of my musical
- training to work. Anyway, I've added your request to the list and whenever we
- get around to starting work on Flash III, we'll see if something like that
- couldn't be included.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 87 Sat Apr 17, 1993
- R.NELSON48 [Grouch (:{] at 01:27 EDT
-
- This reply typed in Aladdin off-line. I have changed my break key to Control-
- C. Flash II is well behaved and working good. Aladdin is very interesting.
- I have spent a lot of time getting it going and I think it may be worth the
- effort. Already paying off in downloads.
-
- Thanks for advice and council. Good help to be found all around this board.
- Makes me wonder why I have spent so many years on CompUserve.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 89 Sat Apr 17, 1993
- B.STOREY [Billy B.] at 10:13 EDT
-
- John, I am in the "RTFM" stage, getting things set up. I tried a couple of
- calls. I like the ANSI color, but it is very hard to read thru in the editor.
- I haven't found a way to strip out the color info to the editor, but there
- must be a way. I tried disabling it in the editor, but it still comes thru.
- Oh, well, I will probably find it soon.
-
- Bill
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 90 Sat Apr 17, 1993
- B.CONNOLLY1 [Bud] at 12:44 EDT
-
- Jon Dinga
-
- I've seen that error as well, I believe it was fixed by putting a
- trailing "\" on DXpath.
-
- Bud Connolly
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 91 Sat Apr 17, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 17:24 EDT
-
- Grouch (:{ - Ya gotta admit - that's a nifty smiley icon! :-)
-
- Glad to hear that F2 is working well for you. Aladdin is an excellent
- addition to F2 for automating your GEnie online time. I obviously prefer F2,
- since I sell it <grin>, but even I use Aladdin at times to save some time. F2
- comes in handy for the special stuff I need to do here on GEnie. Sometimes I
- actually run Aladdin within Flash II! That's fun!
-
- Billy B.
-
- To strip out the ANSI escape sequences from the editor/capture buffer, go to
- Terminal Options for the board in question (or Terminal options under the
- Options menu) and turn on (select) "Filter Escapes". That will get rid of all
- of that garbage so that rereading the messages later in the editor is easier.
-
- Another way to reread your messages is to use the "Review" function in Flash
- II. After you get off line press the [Clr Home] key while in the editor mode.
- That'll move your cursor to the top. Then go to the Capture menu and click on
- "Review". F2 will switch back to the terminal and begin to show you
- everything exactly the way it looked while online. To move forward through
- the review process, press the cursor-right key. To move backwards, press the
- cursor-left key.
-
- Note: If you wish to use review mode, do NOT turn on "Filter Escapes".
- Eliminating the escape sequences will no longer permit actual reviews of your
- capture.
-
- DXpath: You should be able to enter a path either with or without a trailing
- '\' in 2.1. There were some problems in that regard in 2.0 and 2.01.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 92 Sat Apr 17, 1993
- B.STOREY [Billy B.] at 19:31 EDT
-
- John, I have run into another problem: when I am writing .DO files, I always
- get the LF char (bell) at the beginning of each line. I can't find a way to
- turn it off.
-
- A board I have been working with to test my setups, connects, then waits for
- me to press RETURN before responding. It always responds with "name "DZ @DZW"
- not in files. What is your LAST name?" It only responds this way when I call
- from Flash 2. I can't find what is sending that string.
-
- I am running a 4-meg 1040 STe with TOS 2.06.
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 93 Sat Apr 17, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 19:39 EDT
-
- >If you are using the command line, try starting the download by forcing up
- the
- >file selector. You can do that by entering only the download command
- followed
- >by the protocol. For example, for a Zmodem download, enter only "dl zm" and
- >press return. You can then use the file selector to set the path.
-
- Will that work with Zmodem since the sending end gives Zmodem the filename?
- I haven't tried that, but wouldn't it just try to use the default DXPATH and
- download it there with no file selector popping up?
-
- Wayne
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 94 Sat Apr 17, 1993
- C.HAYWARD [Clar] at 21:21 EDT
-
- WAYNED....Message 85
-
- Wayne, I just received the 2.1 upgrade and if I try a Capture Buffer of 512k
- or less and the "USER" setting it goes to 128k and "ALL" when I save defaults.
- I'm using a TOS 1.04 ST with 4Megs.
-
- Clar
-
-
- J.TRAUTSCHOL...Message 91
-
- John, thanks for the upgrade.
-
- I had never used Silent Line so I decided to give it a try today.
-
- However, I can't get Aladdin to run after running Flash II with Silent Line
- installed.
-
- The usual Aladdin initiation doesn't display on the terminal screen, although
- it seems to dial and my modem indicates a connection.
-
- Is there something I'm missing?
-
- Clar
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 95 Sat Apr 17, 1993
- A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt] at 22:46 EDT
-
- John makes a good point about running Aladdin within Flash II -- F2 is able to
- run practically anything inside it (in other words, while using F2 as a sort
- of shell for other programs). But a word of caution: Don't try to have both F2
- and Aladdin accessing the modem port at the same time!
-
- Billy,
-
- Turn off the display of symbols (I've forgotten the exact menu item) for F2,
- and you won't see the LF char on the editor.
-
- Al
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 96 Sat Apr 17, 1993
- C.HAYWARD [Clar] at 22:54 EDT
-
- J.TRAUTSCHOLD
-
- John, I replied to an earlier message from WAYNED about the capture memory
- going to 128k and All if I tried to set a User buffer of 512k or less.
-
- It also seems to happen right on 64k boundaries after 512. 576,640...and so
- on. However, there appears to be no problem with 575,577..639,641 or whatever.
-
- Clar
-
-
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 97 Sat Apr 17, 1993
- C.EVANS5 [Michael] at 23:31 EDT
-
- Jon:I've been pretty happy with the F2 demo and want to order F2. I want to
- upgrade from the flash1.6 that I have now. How is that done? (send in the old
- disk?). Also I've got a problem with the vidtex mode and CI$. when CI$ sends
- a page of news, at the end of the page the cusor will go up 3 or 4 lines and
- cover the last couple of lines of the news page. any thoughts?
- mike in albq.
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 98 Sun Apr 18, 1993
- R.CARPENTE18 [Bob C.] at 01:38 EDT
-
- Clar,
- I believe that the 2.1 upgrade does NOT fix the conflict between Aladdin
- and Silent Line. Ever since I found the problem originally, I haven't had
- Silent Line installed. I'm sure John will be able to say for sure whether the
- problem has been corrected. Your comment seems to indicate that it hasn't
- since that's the exact same problem that was originally there.
- To be honest, 2.1 concentrated on fixing the problems that F2 users had
- with the original release (and 2.01). In doing that, I think 2.1 has been
- very successful. Hopefully, the problems that Silent Line has will be fixed
- soon enough. As an avid Aladdin user, I would really like Silent Line and
- Aladdin to "play well together".
-
- Bob Carpenter
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 99 Sun Apr 18, 1993
- CBARRON at 02:50 EDT
-
- I use FII on CIS in vidtext mode daily. I do find some terminal screen info
- is 'erased' by vidtext cursor control. It happens occassionlally but all the
- info is in the capture buffer. for a quick read right click, shift home and
- the missing text should be right there. I capture 90% of what I read, so it
- is no major problem. I have not used vidtex in another program so it might be
- a vidtext problem. Is CIS and your terminal configured for the same sized
- screen? Note each baud rate there is a possibly different configuration.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 100 Sun Apr 18, 1993
- B.STOREY [Billy B.] at 07:53 EDT
-
- John, I did try clicking on "Filter Escapes", (in both places) and I still get
- the escape sequences! ???
-
-
- Review looks good, but I can't print out the buffer (or parts of it) with the
- escape seq's in there. I am very happy with Flash II otherwise. (Once I get
- the problems solved.)
-
- I will try running Flash II from a blank boot-up, then try it, in case there
- is something messing it up. I'll let you know.
-
- Billy B.
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 101 Sun Apr 18, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 13:51 EDT
-
- Billy,
- What's worse, is that the LF character is still there if you turn off
- display of CR and control characters in the capture buffer.
-
- It has been mentioned by many of the Beta Testers and hopefully will be
- adressed. Ohhhhh John......see it's not just me! :-)
-
- Wayne
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 102 Sun Apr 18, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 14:46 EDT
-
- Clar,
- To be honest, I haven't played around with the Capture Buffer memory
- settings all that much. I did when I first got it, but haven't even looked at
- that in a long time. I'll check and see what mine is doing.
-
- I do believe that Aladdin still won't work with Silent Line installed. John
- knows about my reservations concerning Silent Line. I truly despise the double
- boot it uses. CodeHeads, and other have reset-proof applications that don't
- require a double boot and I wish Silent Line would be brought up to those
- standards. As you can probably tell I don't usually install Silent Line on my
- setup. :-) Only use it when I'm testing it out.
-
- Wayne
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 103 Sun Apr 18, 1993
- C.HAYWARD [Clar] at 19:49 EDT
-
- C.EVANS5
-
- I had the same problem until I changed the page width in my CIS profile from
- 80 to 72. You might try and see if it works for you.
-
-
- R.CARPENTE18 WAYNE.D
-
- I had never used Silent Line and I probably won't use it in the future unless
- it works with ZMODEM. It's just that I was installing 2.1 and "took a look".
-
- Clar
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 104 Mon Apr 19, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 02:00 EDT
-
- Gee...
-
- How'd all you folks know I'm out of town this week and unable to quickly
- answer your questions? :-) Can't win for trying! I guess I shouldn't
- complain too much since I'm in Las Vegas for a week. Of course, I'm spending
- more time in meetings and on the convention floor than I am gambling!!!
-
- Anyway, with my trusty Stacy in hand, let's see if I can't answer some of
- these questions for you...
-
- Billy...
-
- Your first problem isn't a problem! The LF character is supposed to be there.
- If you don't want to see it go to Options|Editor and click on the button
- called "Display Control Characters". When the button is no longer selected,
- you won't see the little "bells" anymore.
-
- BTW (this is for Wayne too), the LF character *has* to be there for proper
- ASCII text formatting. What we're looking at for a future version is an
- option that will _hide_ the LF character which will also make it non-editable
- (the CR and LF characters would then be handled in pairs which is what most
- word processors do). However, we won't be eliminating it. That would be non-
- standard.
-
- Regarding your second problem, I have no idea at all where the "DZ @DZW"
- response is coming from. If you are using Edit/Dial Boards for connecting to
- this board, go to "Edit Boards" for the board in question (under the "Phone"
- menu) and click on the MACRO button. Check to see if there's anything in the
- "Auto" macro line. If there is, erase it. Whatever is in this line is
- activated as soon as you connect.
-
- If you *aren't* using Edit/Dial Boards and just dialing out manually, then I'm
- stumped.
-
- Regarding "Filter Escapes" - as far as I know that is working just fine. In
- version 2.1, "Filter Escapes" only filters out escape sequences, not control
- characters. Are you confusing the two, perhaps? In our next release we're
- changing the "Filter Escapes" to "Filter Non-ASCII" which will get rid of both
- the escapes sequences and control characters (except for the CRLF pair, if
- they exist).
-
- Wayne...
-
- Well, I guess that Zmodem example was a bad one. However, if "Autostart" is
- turned off for Zmodem options, then you could use the example I gave. Perhaps
- a better example would have been to use "dl xm" for xmodem downloads.
-
- See? That's what happens when I rush through replies just hours before
- leaving on a business trip!
-
- Clar...
-
- I can't imagine why your Capture Buffer memory setting is switching from USER
- to ALL and getting reset to 128k. We've had no other complaints about a
- problem like that and I regularly set my capture memory options on all three
- Atari computers. Try selecting HALF and see what happens.
-
- Ah - I just read your second message. So the problem only exists when trying
- to set capture less than 512k. Perhaps there is a problem that I'm not aware
- of. I'll have to check into that. Thanks.
-
- Silent Line and Aladdin do not get along at all. You can not use Aladdin when
- SL is loaded into the system. We've tryed to figure out a way around the
- problem, but so far we haven't been able to. Generally, if SL is loaded but F2
- is not run before Aladdin, then everything is ok. But once F2 runs, Aladdin
- gets locked out of the port. We're continuing to work on the problem and
- perhaps we'll come up with a solution eventually.
-
- Sorry about that...
-
- Michael...
-
- Glad you like the Flash II demo. I believe the information on ordering
- appears at the end of the read.me file that came with the demo. In any case,
- to upgrade you need to send me your old F1.6 master disk. I'll send it back
- to you with a new disk and manual, etc. for F2.1. The cost is $30 + $4
- shipping (USA & Canada). Send the stuff to:
-
- Missionware Software
- 354 N. Winston Drive
- Palatine, IL 60067-4132
-
- Regarding the CIS Vidtex problem, I hadn't noticed that with our production
- version. It's possible that a problem exists in the demo that we're not aware
- of. I'm on CIS regularly and hadn't noticed this. You may want to double
- check and make sure that both your CIS options and F2 terminal options match.
- In other words, if you've got CIS set to a page height of 24 lines, make sure
- that F2 is also set to 24 lines. Other than that, everything should work ok.
-
- Clar makes a valid point also. Make sure that the CIS page width is set to
- something less than 80.
-
- John T.
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 105 Mon Apr 19, 1993
- A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt] at 03:26 EDT
-
- Wayne and Billy,
-
- I need to make a confession. (Sorry, John!) I became annoyed at the display of
- those bell characters when I first saw them as a beta tester and switched to
- STeno as the word processor of choice while using F2.
-
- Using a DA like STeno also makes everything simple, because you don't need to
- worry about the F2 buffer.
-
- Al
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 106 Mon Apr 19, 1993
- R.NELSON48 [Grouch (:{] at 23:05 EDT
-
- ~~~~Brian....
-
- Fooy Patooy! Yes, I have printed out reams of BBS Q & A and tried to read the
- manual twice keeping in mind that if all else fails then RTFM.
-
- The Manual is good for setting up, but use I think must come from practice.
- So a practicing I be, this message written off line in Aladin. Captured yours
- the same way. Only thing is, I don't know what you were replying to when you
- wrote me. Grumble Mumble.
-
- -=-=-= Grouch (:{ =-=-=-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 107 Tue Apr 20, 1993
- C.KERNS [Craig] at 00:14 EDT
-
- I've been trying out the Demo of Flash II because I'm looking for something
- that will do VT102 emulation for a system I call. After setting up the
- Function keys for the escape sequences I needed, every thing worked well
- expect for two items. First, the Enter key on the keypad seems to be sending
- out the same sequence (Esc O s) as the numeric keypad '3' key instead of Esc O
- M (I set up a function key so I could get around this for trialing the Demo).
- Second, every so often the screen would reverse from black text/white
- background to the reverse and then later change again. Can't remember if it
- was at the same spot on the system I was using, but thought it kind of
- unusual. I'm using ST high res, BTW. Overall the program seemed to work
- smoothly, and I would consider buying it.
-
- -Craig
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 109 Wed Apr 21, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 01:37 EDT
-
- Craig...
-
- We discovered a bug in 2.1 (which also affects the demo) in regard to the
- "Enter" key for VTxxx emulation. We've already got that fixed in our latest
- beta. Although the version we're still shipping, 2.1, has the bug, there'll
- be a free upgrade available for everyone to fix that and a couple of other
- things found as well. The upgrades will be uploaded here or you'll be able to
- send your 2.1 master in for a free upgrade. Once everything is done, we'll
- start shipping the fixed version.
-
- I've not aware of any problems with the screen switching back and forth
- between negative/positive displays. Perhaps that was only a glitch you
- experienced? I hope so! :-)
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 110 Wed Apr 21, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 20:39 EDT
-
- >BTW (this is for Wayne too), the LF character *has* to be there for
- >proper ASCII text formatting. What we're looking at for a future
- >version is an option that will _hide_ the LF character which will
- >also make it non-editable (the CR and LF characters would then be
- >handled in pairs which is what most >word processors do).
-
- Hiding the LF character would be fine. Perhaps make that another option
- along with CR in the capture settings. Either giving a seperate button to
- LF's, or making the CR setting into a CR/LF setting.
- No other terminal program or word processor has had the LF character
- "there". For instance in the sentence that begins "No other terminal......"
- if I were to mark the block in the capture buffer it would be "<LF> No other
- terminal.....", whereas in every other terminal program or word processor I've
- ever used the <LF> is not there. As you state, the CR/LF are usually handled
- in pairs which sounds fine to me. I really don't see a lot of use for the LF
- by itself so it would work fine being paired with the CR character IMHO.
-
- >Well, I guess that Zmodem example was a bad one. However, if
- >"Autostart" is turned off for Zmodem options, then you could use the
- >example I gave. Perhaps a better example would have been to use "dl
- >xm" for xmodem downloads.
-
- I forgot about having the autostart shut off. You're correct that it should
- work as you described if autostart was off. But why would anyone turn it off?
- :-)
-
- ---------
-
- Al,
- Shame on you! :) The bell (LF) does annoy me, but not to that extent.
- Until they "fix" that I leave the CR and escape character turned on so I don't
- forget to pull the LF before uploading or saving a block.
-
- --------
-
- Craig,
- RE: the screen flip-flop on color.
-
- You aren't using a screen saver that flip-flops the screen in the same
- manner you're seeing are you? I wonder if it's the screen saver kicking in
- for some reason? Were you doing any typing or mouse movements during that
- time? If not maybe that's the "culprit"?
-
- Wayne
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 111 Thu Apr 22, 1993
- A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt] at 09:07 EDT
-
- Wayne and John,
-
- When F2's editor works like a regular editor, more users will take advantage
- of it. If this ain't a forest-for-the-trees situation, I don't know what is.
- There's no reason odd characters need to show up in the text, especially at
- the beginning of lines.
-
- :)
-
- Al
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 112 Thu Apr 22, 1993
- J.ROGOZINSK2 [Rogo] at 18:50 EDT
-
- >Until they "fix" that I leave the CR and escape character turned on
- >so I don't forget to pull the LF before uploading or saving a block.
- >
-
- I am having problems with this CR and LF thing. It seems when I type a message
- or do an Email on line the message/Email is sent double spaced. How to I get
- single spacing not double? What and where are the correct settings?
-
- I also have tried to send an acsii block from the capture buffer and nothing
- happens. What am I missing here?
-
- And what does "...so I don't forget to pull the LF before..." mean?
-
-
- === Joe Rogo ===
- Thursday, April 22, 1993
- 6:30 pm
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 113 Fri Apr 23, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 01:24 EDT
-
- I think it was here about a week ago that someone posted a message regarding a
- problem with the B2 bell function. It apparently caused a script to hang
- whenever the B2 command was processed.
-
- Could whom ever posted that message please send me the script in email so that
- we can check out the problem? We've done some tests and couldn't find a
- problem, so it may be directly related to a sequence of script commands or
- something else unusual.
-
- If the script isn't too long you could post it here as well. Thanks.
-
- John T.
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 114 Fri Apr 23, 1993
- TOPNOTCH at 04:37 EDT
-
- What is the current version of Flash II? How do I upgrade?
-
- Rick
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 115 Fri Apr 23, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 19:32 EDT
-
- Rogo,
- You probably have the CR -> CR+LF turned on for SEND in the terminal options
- dialog. You should only need it at most for receive and possibly not even for
- that depending on how the host you're calling handles this. At the very least
- turn off the SEND portion so you aren't sending a CR and LF for every line,
- the host is handling the LF for you which is why you're getting an extra line
- feed (double spacing)
-
- On the ASCII uploads, take a look under the transfer menu, and select ASCII.
- Then take a look at the ASCII options. There are several things there that
- might be causing the problem. Most likely you want the prompting off, and if
- you have a fast modem you may want to put a 1 or 2 second line pacing in. You
- should enable DC2/4, and strip line feeds. That should enable you to do ASCII
- uploads.
-
- The "so I don't forget to pull the LF before...." is when I mark a block
- there's a line feed character at the beginning of the line and I pull it out.
- If I shut off the viewing of the control characters I can't see it and forget
- to do it. :-)
-
- Wayne
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 116 Fri Apr 23, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 22:42 EDT
-
- Wayne...
-
- Well, like I said, we're definitely going to be taking a look at the handling
- of the CRLF characters in the next full upgrade. There'll be some sort of
- option included for this. At the same time, we need to keep the editor
- capable of editing everything, so with the help of you guys (and gals), we'll
- get something figured out! :-)
-
- Al...
-
- Although I don't want to take up a lot of space here debating the F2 editor,
- there are reasons why it is the way it is. I'll be the first to admit that
- having to worry about the LF and CR characters can be a bit annoying, although
- I've personally gotten used to it.
-
- The F2 editor was designed to be an edit-anything editor. That means it can
- edit binary files as well as text files. It can also load and edit GIF files.
- These types of files must be displayable in the F2 editor and since they do
- include the LF and CR characters as a part of their code, we have to be able
- to display them for editing.
-
- Ideally what we need to do is create two edit modes - one for text and one for
- binary files. That should solve our problem. Paul and I have discussed this
- extensively and although we didn't have time to make the changes in 2.1, we
- are planning on making changes for the next major upgrade. It's at the top of
- my list.
-
- Regarding Zmodem autostart - I agree - I wouldn't want to shut autostart off
- either! :-)
-
- Rogo...
-
- Chances are the double-spacing of your uploaded text has nothing to do with
- the CR LF discussion. There's an ASCII upload option called "STRIP
- LINEFEEDS". Make sure that is turned on. Many BBS' expect to see only the CR
- character at the end of a line. The BBS translates the CR into a CRLF. If
- you also send an LF then spacing between lines gets doubled.
-
- I use block uploads all of the time. What kind of problem are you having? I
- mark the block in the capture using either the function keys or the mouse,
- then switch back to the terminal screen and enter "ul bl as" in the command
- line. The block gets sent and everything is ok.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 117 Sat Apr 24, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 00:50 EDT
-
- Rick...
-
- The current version of Flash II is 2.1. If you had registered your previous
- version with us (2.0 or 2.01) you should have received it already. If you
- never registered your copy just send in your blue registration card. Make
- sure you include the serial number off of your master disk, and put a note on
- the card asking for the 2.1 upgrade. Once I receive your card, I'll send you
- out a new disk.
-
- Coming Home...
-
- I'll be heading back home tomorrow from my business trip in Las Vegas so
- things so be back to normal soon. Thanks for putting up with the tardiness of
- my replies. And mucho thanks to Wayne for helping answer questions here. In
- case you all didn't know, Wayne is one of our top beta testers and manages to
- fill in during those times that I'm busy with something else. Wayne's done a
- good job of answering questions this week, so could we hear a round of
- applause? <clap clap clap clap...>
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 118 Sat Apr 24, 1993
- R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson] at 03:10 EDT
-
- I downloaded the demo and it Flash 2 looks good. One thing though, does Flash
- 2's REVIEW feature allow use of VT52 codes? It filters out the ESC character
- and thus no VT52 effects. I have VT52 selected as terminal type.
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 119 Sat Apr 24, 1993
- TOPNOTCH at 13:48 EDT
-
- John,
-
- I'm still at 2.0 so I'll need to upgrade. I'm fairly sure that I
- registered but it might be under my old address. I'll E-Mail you my info so
- you can double check it for me. (If you wouldn't mind<g>)
-
- Thanks,
-
- Rick
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 120 Sat Apr 24, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 22:46 EDT
-
- Wayne...
-
- Yes, you can review VT52 as well as all of the other emulations. I guessing
- that the reason the F2 demo is filtering out the escape sequences is that
- FILTER ESCAPES is turned on in Terminal Options. This is a feature that can be
- set globally or for any specific board.
-
- Rick...
-
- I'll look for your email and reply there.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 121 Sun Apr 25, 1993
- R.NELSON48 [Grouch (:{] at 01:58 EDT
-
- Woaah
-
- I'm becoming conversant with Aladdin Lag. I remember sending you mail about a
- reply where I didn't remember what you were replying to, now I read another
- message that makes me think we are having a conversation, but once again I've
- lost the topic.
-
- Yes! Flash II is usefull, I like it. Yes, Aladdin good. GEine big, lots o'
- messages. Still trying to catch up. Once again, thanks for the reply, I'll
- bug you later when I have a point to make. Right now I'm just browsing the
- board off-line. Who knows when this will be posted.
-
- Written 10:30am PDT 4/23/93 -=-= Grouch (;{ =-=-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 122 Sun Apr 25, 1993
- R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson] at 11:47 EDT
-
- John,
- I finally figured out what I was doing wrong in the demo for viewing ANSI,
- VT52, etc. I loaded in an ANSI file with the extender .ANS and the review
- worked good. I couldn't understand why it wouldn't do VT52 and so I decided to
- change the ANSI file's extender to TXT and it would NOT review it properly.
- This leads me to believe that Flash 2's review is tied into the extender of
- the file you load in.
-
- If this is the case, I believe it needs to be changed to where you can
- display a file using what you have set in the Terminal section. I would like
- to look at my VT52 screens for my BBS BUT, they have the TXT extender. PLEASE
- consider changing this. It would be a pain to rename them for viewing and then
- rename them back so the BBS will find them. BTW, what is the extender for
- VT52?
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 123 Sun Apr 25, 1993
- A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt] at 12:27 EDT
-
- John,
-
- That would be a good solution.
-
- Al
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 124 Sun Apr 25, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 22:24 EDT
-
- Wayne...
-
- BINGO! You win the prize of the day, which is... (well, uh, there's no prize
- of the day! :-) ) Yes, the extension you save a capture under is very
- important for review purposes. As you found out, review won't work right with
- the wrong extension. That's why F2 automatically chooses an extension for you
- when you go to save the capture to a file. It's trying to force you to use
- the proper one! Naturally, you can override it as long as you are willing to
- lose the review options. (Of course, all you need to do rename the file with
- the proper extension and that solves that problem too.)
-
- The extension for VT52 is "052".
-
- Your proposition creates a bit of a problem. If Terminal Options selects the
- type of emulation and someone decides to review a file using something other
- than that emulation, then what happens? Believe me, we spent a lot of time
- mulling over this situation and we decided that the best way to handle this
- was the extension method. I'll talk to the author about it again though.
- Perhaps a solution would be to use the Terminal Options emulation when loading
- in a file without one of our default extensions. If a file is loaded with a
- default extension, then override the default with that.
-
- Tis never easy! :-)
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 125 Mon Apr 26, 1993
- R.BINGHAM2 [Da Sloth] at 01:12 EDT
-
- Hope the fix to the RUBOUT bug in the type ahead buffer will be in the next
- update!
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 126 Mon Apr 26, 1993
- R.WATSON15 [Wayne Watson] at 05:27 EDT
-
- John,
- If the user chooses the wrong emulation, then all he would have to do is
- choose the right one. The problem I have with it is that I do not have the
- control over this situation. I can understand your problem with dealing with
- different types of emulation but, I feel the user should have some control
- over this. To have the program determine and regulate what you see by an
- extension is to take away control from the user.
-
- It would be great if you did allow an option in this. It would be better if,
- when you load a file with an extension (ANS for instance), then the program
- would automatically switch to the proper terminal settings BUT, the user user
- could also flip over to the terminal screen and change it if they want. This
- would give the user the control over what he wants done and also offer an
- automated switch to what Flash thinks is the proper emulation. The loading of
- this kind of file would go something like...
-
- 1. Load in a file with ANS extension.
- 2. Flash 2 switches to ANSI emulation and IBM character set.
- 3. File had wrong extension so user goes to terminal mode
- and selects VT52 and Atari character set. This would override
- Flash's auto-set of emulation.
-
- The above may be an exageration as a VT52 file is not normally named with
- the ANS extension but, I think you get what I am saying. You could replace the
- above with TXT and the action Flash takes for TXT files. Just allow the user
- the choice to override.
-
-
- I just like to have control when possible. If I KNOW the file is actually a
- VT52 or whatever text file, then I ought to be able to set it so that it will
- review it properly.
-
- Thanks for listening. I will be sending in my update soon.
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 127 Mon Apr 26, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 22:24 EDT
-
- Sloth...
-
- Yup - the RUBOUT bug in the TA is already fixed. I'm waiting for a 2.11
- version from the author, and once it passes muster with our beta testers it'll
- get uploaded here. Hopefully I'll have that version in a few days.
-
- Wayne...
-
- I've already passed on your suggestion to Paul Nicholls. I don't see any
- major problem in implementing it. I doubt that the change will occur in
- version 2.11 discussed above, however, it should happen in the 2.2 version
- we're also working on that will address MultiTOS and the Falcon.
-
- Thanks.
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 128 Tue Apr 27, 1993
- B.STOREY [Billy B.] at 07:05 EDT
-
- Perhaps developers should consider setting a standard for naming of extenders?
-
-
- It really shouldn't matter what the developer wants the program to look for.
- If everyone uses the same extender for the same data, it should work out
- nicely in the future.
-
- There is a finite limit to the possibilities for extenders, but if totally
- different applications use the same extender it shouldn't present a problem.
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 129 Wed Apr 28, 1993
- M.SCHOEDEL [Michael] at 23:20 EDT
-
- I seem to be having trouble where proper colors are concerned. When in VT
- VT52 mode, green comes out as a dark, unreadable blue. ASNI gives only red
- and b red and blue, and not always in the correct order. I've seen some of
- the ANSI BBSes on a PC, and what's red comes out as white, green is blue,
- yellow is red, etc.. I have an old 520ST with TOS 1.0 and 512K. I run nothing
- else due to memory restraints. Could this be from my old machine, or is the
- program a little "off"? Dialing and file transfers work well, I'm pleased to
- report.
-
- Michael
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 130 Thu Apr 29, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 18:45 EDT
-
- Micheal,
- Are your colors set up stock as they come on the desktop if you don't have a
- Desktop.inf? If green is coming out as a dark unreadable blue, I'd bet that
- your background color on the desktop is a dark blue? If I recall, (I don't
- use VTxx because it slows things down on any setup) the 4 standard colors on a
- medium res desktop are white, black, green, and red in that order. I may have
- white/black flip-flopped, and green/red flip-flopped also. As you can tell I
- don't use color very much, I usually use monochrome for everything except for
- graphics games.
-
- Wayne
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 131 Thu Apr 29, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 23:11 EDT
-
- Michael...
-
- What Wayne said...
-
- The trouble with ANSI color emulation on an ST is that there are really only 4
- colors to fool around with - at least in medium resolution, and two of those
- include black and white. You may have to fiddle with your system color
- palette a bit to get the colors to work right for you.
-
- Flash II uses the colors that are available in the system for these
- emulations.
-
- BTW, what version of F2 do you have? If you don't have version 2.1 you need
- to upgrade. Version 2.1 does a better job at trying to guess what colors to
- use and generally defaults to just black and white if there is no good
- combination. 2.1 is a free upgrade.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 132 Fri Apr 30, 1993
- J.GERMAN3 [Hydraxxus] at 00:46 EDT
-
- John,
- In regards to sound support, I was hoping for something that would be
- configurable or would have different sounds for different events, ala FZDS
- Term
- I had been a longtime user of that program and the only thing I miss
- is the sounds it uses. I like to know when my download is done correctly or if
- there has been a problem. I could write a .DO file, but the only sound support
- is a bell or a continuous bell. I think this is about the only contribution I
- can make towards improving your already impressive work. I use it for all of
- my telecoms and enjoy it very much. BTW I have shown it at a users meeting and
- got a few good responses. Hopefully everyone will see things my way ;)
- -Hydraxxus-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 133 Sat May 01, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 00:49 EDT
-
- Hydraxxus (BTW - just what does that interesting handle of yours
- standfor?)...
-
- Well, you'll be happy to know that we've added extra sound support to our ever-
- growing list of enhancements for future versions. I have no idea what form
- that sound support will take at this time, or even when we'll try adding it to
- the program, but it's now on our official list. That's always a good sign! :-
- ) I can definitely see the benefit of having different "tunes" available for
- different functions and that really shouldn't be too hard to do (just have to
- start practicing my Dosound() commands again).
-
- I'm glad to hear you like the program. If any of your user-group friends have
- any questions, please have them ask. I'll try to get an answer back ASAP.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 134 Sat May 01, 1993
- B.STOREY [Billy B.] at 09:17 EDT
-
- John, just a thank-you note. Thru your assistance and guidance, here and in e-
- mail, I have managed to get Flash II working very nicely.
-
- This is an excellent program. There are a few minor enhancements I would like
- to see in coming versions, and I have seen you taking notes, so I expect that
- in time we will have all the bells and whistles buttoned down tightly.
-
- Good job! Thanks again!
-
- Billy B.
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 135 Sun May 02, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 13:43 EDT
-
- Sounds good Billy... Glad that I was able to help. And don't forget to drop
- into the RTC this coming Wednesday where we'll be answering even more
- questions and looking for suggestions.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 136 Tue May 04, 1993
- M.MASTALER [Mike] at 18:27 EDT
-
- John, Love the new update. BUT..... I can't seem to upload files on genie. I
- choose [xmodem CRC ] , then try the uplaod, but the upload prompt says
- "waiting for NAC" , then error. I tried to send via xmodem CRC , it as an
- xmodem and Ymodem, to no avail. Any suggestions Thanks. Mike
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 137 Tue May 04, 1993
- M.SCHOEDEL [Michael] at 22:37 EDT
-
- John, I have version 2.1 of F-II. My desktop is stock, meaning good old
- green. It's a real mystery.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 138 Wed May 05, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 19:35 EDT
-
- Mike...
-
- Check to make sure that you've got your Xmodem options in Flash II (for your
- GEnie setup) set to:
-
- Pad Last Block Ctrl-Z
- Checksum CRC16
- Timing Loose
- Batch Mode Off
- Block 128
-
- More than likely you've got Block set to 1K instead of 128. If that doesn't
- help, let me know and we'll try again.
-
- John T.
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 140 Sat May 08, 1993
- B.MENAGH [Bill] at 16:02 EDT
-
- I had asked previously about a problem with F2: my system would crash when I
- went to dial - the dial screen would appear, I would select my choice and the
- mouse arrow would appear, flicker and upon moving the mouse, I would get 4
- bombs. It was suggested that I re-install F2 and check other ACCs and AUTO
- programs. I have re-installed, F2 worked once then crashed on the second try.
- I have not yet tried the various combinations of other programs because of
- lack of time. Perhaps this month. I am using a Mega4ST with Warp9 Maxifile,
- Rambaby (not run with Silentline),Multidesk, Neodesk, SLM804, Cal63,
- Superboot8, Datadiet (with appropriate F2 files not dietized), JAR10,
- LGSelect, TOS14FX2, Are there any suggestions which one(s) I might check on
- first? Any help appreciated. Bill
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 141 Sat May 08, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 20:09 EDT
-
- Bill,
- Try shutting everything in the AUTO folder off. The only things I see in
- your Auto folder that are things I don't have are SLM804 which I assume is a
- program to set the screen dump to work with an SLM804 or something, and
- Datadiet. I'd un-dietize any boot files, and any F-2 files and shut that off
- also.
-
- I have a Meag4st and can assure you it does work with that computer. :)
-
- What TOS version are you running? I'm running Tos 1.04. Also concerning
- Datadiet you say "with appropriate F2 files not dietized".
- What exactly does that mean? Are you dietizing some of the F2 files that you
- feel are appropriate?
- If I had to guess which program(s) are causing the trouble I'd have to say
- Datadiet, then Rambaby, then SLM804. All the others I either do, or have run
- with F2. Of course others may use one or more of those on my list and be able
- to confirm or deny my suspicions.
-
- With the suite of CodeHead programs you are running I'm surprised you aren't
- running the CodeHead ramdisk. It's a great ramdisk and the one I use. Just
- an FYI. :)
-
- Wayne
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 142 Sat May 08, 1993
- BRIAN.H [ST~SysOp] at 21:27 EDT
-
- I think this is my first question in this topic. I have been increasing my
- usage of Flash II and use it frequently when editing stuff, such as RTC. Ok,
- what I have seen happen twice was I get part of a message and not the rest.
- Like this:
-
- > ************
- >Topic 15 Sun Oct 25, 1992
- >E.BAIZ at 08:53 EST
- >Sub: AMBERSTAR for the ST
- >
- >An excellent Role-Playing game for the ST.
- >
- >1 new messages.
- > ************
- > ------------
- >Category 9, Topi
-
- That's it! What am I NOT Flash II doing wrong?
-
-
- Brian ... Written on Saturday 08 May 1993 at 09:55 p.m. ADT
-
- More questions to follow.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 143 Sun May 09, 1993
- CBARRON at 03:09 EDT
-
- Brian, is your modem using the same flow control as you tell FII to use? My
- genie terminal is setup as distributed on the originals. No text lost in
- capture if flow control matches up. No text loss with proper flow control for
- ages, in any tos I used 1.0,1.06,3.06....
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 144 Sun May 09, 1993
- BRIAN.H [ST~SysOp] at 11:04 EDT
-
- CBarron,
-
- Problem is it is an occasional thing. Not a regular occurrence and it
- works with STalker, Stealth and Aladdin. I use the "none' setting. Besides,
- isn't flow control more important for uploads, my problem is missing text
- while doing some "bro".
-
- Thanks for the suggestion.
-
- Brian ... Written on Sunday 09 May 1993 at 10:50 a.m. ADT
-
-
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 145 Sun May 09, 1993
- B.STOREY [Billy B.] at 11:13 EDT
-
- I have gotten Flsah II working extremely well, and I like it. I have one
- little problem I haven't been able to correct: After telling a BBS "G", and
- disconnecting normally, I have to click on "Terminate call" before proceeding
- to make another call. Otherwise the "Dial boards" option is greyed out.
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 146 Sun May 09, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 17:03 EDT
-
- Bill...
-
- There should be no problems at all with any of the CodeHead products. I use
- many of them myself and F2 always coexists well with them.
-
- Although this shouldn't cause a problem, there is no need to use TOS14FX2 with
- Flash II from version 2.01 on. If F2 is the only serial port program you are
- using, then you can boot up without the program. F2 handles internally what
- TOS14FX2 does.
-
- I'm not familiar with "Rambaby", although I'd guess it's a ram disk. I'd try
- eliminating that to begin with. I assume that Cal63 is a Calculator DA. I'm
- not familiar with that either, so that's a good possibility.
-
- I assume you've got our latest release, 2.1, correct? If not, you should get
- it. If you are registered you should have received it automatically by now.
-
- What bothers me is why the program would run once, then crash from that point
- on. Do you have to reinstall F2 to get it to run again, or will it run again
- *1 time* after rebooting your system? If that's the case then it's possible
- that Data Diet is causing some sort of contention.
-
- Let us know what you discover. Thanks.
-
- John T.
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 147 Sun May 09, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 19:11 EDT
-
- Brian,
- What version of Flash II are you using? In the initial release version
- certain characters being received could lock up the port and nothing could get
- in. It was fixed in subsequent releases. Other than that the only things I
- can think of is GEnie lag during peak times,(i.e. are you waiting long enough
- for the rest of the text) and the size of the capture buffer you have set.
- You can set Flash II to use all available ram, or tell it to only take a
- portion of available ram for the capture buffer. Maybe you're buffer is full?
-
- -----------
-
- John,
- RE: Bill's troubles..... You can eliminate Cal63. I use it all the time and
- there's no trouble. You are correct in that it's a calendar utility, but that
- description doesn't do it justice. It's the best one I've ever seen. I have
- all my important dates set up in it. Another bonus is you can have Cal set
- HotWire alarms for an event when it comes up. I have everything from TV
- programs I want to watch, to trash and recycling day set up in it and it
- reminds me of these and other important events like ....... Mothers Day!
- (gotta call Mom later)
- It's shareware and in the libraries. Well worth the look for a busy person
- such as yourself.
-
- Wayne
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 148 Sun May 09, 1993
- BRIAN.H [ST~SysOp] at 19:27 EDT
-
- Wayne, The latest version direct from John about three weeks ago. If I hit "y"
- I normally get the reply command. Therefore, GEnie should be sending but I am
- not getting it. It probably isn't F2 but if it isn't then I don't know what it
- is. No difference in time of doing it either; near empty buffer or not. Thanks
- anyway.
-
-
- Brian ... Written on Sunday 09 May 1993 at 08:27 p.m. ADT
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 149 Sun May 09, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 20:00 EDT
-
- Wayne and Bill...
-
- I'm pretty sure that the SLM804 program that Bill is talking about is the
- Diablo Driver/Emulator used to redirect parallel port stuff to the SLM.
- Although I don't use the driver regularly, I do use it enough with F2 to be
- pretty sure it's not the problem.
-
- Brian...
-
- Gee - that's really strange. I'm not sure what you are doing wrong, if
- anything. Many moons ago we had some strange problems similar to what you've
- described, but that was in our first release, 2.0.
-
- What emulation are you using here? It should be TTY. You may also want to
- check and make sure that you've got 7 Bit Control and Character codes set.
- These settings are all found in Terminal Options.
-
- When this happens, have you noticed whether or not data continues to be
- received at the modem? If it is still coming in but nothing is displayed,
- then it sounds like the serial port hung. Try pressing the [Clr Home] key to
- reset the terminal.
-
- Also, what baud rate are you using? Are you splitting your data rates? This
- is what Carl was hinting at. For example, if you always connect to your modem
- at a higher data rate than the modem connects to GEnie, then you *must* have
- RTS/CTS activated in RS232 Options. Data will get lost otherwise. Some modems
- permit connecting to them at, say 9600, while they then negotiate the highest
- rate possible with the BBS' modem.
-
- Billy...
-
- You're telling the BBS you are disconnecting, but you aren't telling F2. If
- you use DCD Connect, then that happens automatically when the NO CARRIER
- string is seen in the terminal. (The modem toggles the DCD line which tells
- F2 that you've disconnected.) However, if you are using STRINGS to connect,
- then until you tell F2 to disconnect, it won't.
-
- The best way to handle this is through a simple macro. You said this board
- needs a 'G' for "goodbye". Let's say the last thing the board says before it
- disconnects is "So long from XYZ BBS!". Write the following macro and stick
- it in, say, the F10 key for that board:
-
- >LI ON|G|>WA BBS!|>HG|
-
- What that does is turn LIst mode on (for troubleshooting), sends the 'G' for
- goodbye, then waits until the final goodbye string is received from the BBS.
- When F2 sees that, it does the HG (hangup) command which terminates the board
- for you.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 150 Sun May 09, 1993
- BRIAN.H [ST~SysOp] at 22:06 EDT
-
- I have the correct emulation and control. I haven't got an error correcting
- modem this could be the problem. I know to well not to blame any one program
- and thus it is important for people to realize it could be F2, GEnie or more
- probably me [grin].
-
-
- Brian ... Written on Sunday 09 May 1993 at 11:05 p.m. ADT
-
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 151 Sun May 09, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 22:51 EDT
-
- Wayne...
-
- Gee, we're criss-crossing our answers back and forth! :-) That's ok though -
- you might come across something that I didn't, or vice versa. Sure is nice
- having you around to help!
-
- BTW, Brian has version 2.1. He just purchased it.
-
- FB on Cal63. I won't worry about that one anymore. Thanks. Oh, it's a
- "calendar" accessory - I thought it was a "calculator" accessory - or did I
- say calendar. Whatever! :-)
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 152 Mon May 10, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 19:27 EDT
-
- >FB on Cal63. I won't worry about that one anymore. Thanks. Oh, it's a
- >"calendar" accessory - I thought it was a "calculator" accessory - or did I
- >say calendar. Whatever! :-)
-
- Hmmmm maybe you did say Calculator, but my brain read it as Calendar? At
- any rate, check it out I think you'll like it. I never thought I needed a
- Calendar/alarm accessory but now I don't know what I'd do without it. My
- computer now reminds me of things instead of having 50 bazillion post it notes
- stuck all over my desk. :)
-
- Wayne
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 153 Mon May 10, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 19:39 EDT
-
- Brian...
-
- Ah! Without an error correcting modem it's very possible that some line noise
- received by F2 is causing it to get hung. Pressing the [Clr Home] key should
- definitely clear that up if that's the case. You might also switch to the
- capture buffer and turn on "Display Control Codes" in Options|Editor. Look
- for any weird symbols (other than the "bell" characters which are line feeds,
- or the "cr" characters which are carriage returns). You can translate those
- weird symbols into control characters by using the chart in Appendix B of the
- Flash II User's Manual.
-
- John T.
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 154 Wed May 12, 1993
- B.WILLIS3 [Bill] at 22:25 EDT
-
- How about this one...
- I've got drive C opened a few directories deep on the desktop, and I decide
- to load Flash II via a function key. (TT030) The Flash II files are at
- E:\FLASH\.
- Flash II loads, but it can't find its defaults. If I open a file selector,
- it goes to that drive C path I was looking at earlier.
- Is this a known phenomenon?
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 155 Thu May 13, 1993
- CBARRON at 02:22 EDT
-
- Bill , There are a couple of buttons on the dialog obtaind from the TT's
- desktop menu item Install application. Set it to look for files in the
- APPLICATION's folder. It works, FII is called on my TT via F1, plenty of
- times, regardless of any open windows of the desktop.
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 156 Thu May 13, 1993
- M.MASTALER [Mike] at 03:57 EDT
-
- John . I have v2.1 and wrote to you last week about not being able
- to upload on genie via X modem. (see message#138 here) I DID have some differ
- different settings ( Was set to "tight" and "1K" ), so I changed those.
- However, I'm still not able to upload x modem. Now, with Genie, I have
- been choosing option 3, [xmodem CRC]. Is that right ? not [xmodem] ?
- When the status window came up, it said NAK and then ERROR. Any
- '
- suggestions ? MIKE
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 157 Thu May 13, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 23:18 EDT
-
- Bill...
-
- What Carl said. On the TT you kinda-sorta have to be careful how you've got
- the Flash II icon configured on the desktop. There are basically two choices:
- Application and Top Window. If top window is selected, then whatever window
- is topped is the path that's sent to F2. Naturally, F2 uses this path to try
- to find it's def and lst files. If it can't find them, it sets up its
- internal defaults.
-
- Use Application for your desktop configuration. The desktop will then pass
- the path that F2 resides in when it is started up. That should solve your
- problem.
-
- Mike...
-
- Sure, you can use GEnie's Xmodem-CRC mode but then you must make sure that
- F2's Xmodem is also configured to use "CRC16" in that same option dialog. If
- that is not selected, you'll have a problem if you use the CRC option on
- GEnie. Naturally, if you decide not to use CRC, then make sure that F2 is
- configured to not use CRC16 and choose the appropriate GEnie option at upload
- time.
-
- If you continue to have problems, you may also want to check your modem
- options and terminal options. I've had the best luck using modem options 8N1
- (8 databits, no parity and 1 stop bit) and setting the terminal options to use
- 7 bits for both Control and Character options (this is in the second dialog of
- Terminal Options - click on More Terminal Options to get to that dialog).
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 158 Fri May 14, 1993
- B.WILLIS3 [Bill] at 00:30 EDT
-
- Carl & John,
- Thanks, that makes perfect sense.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 159 Fri May 14, 1993
- R.BINGHAM2 [Da Sloth] at 03:28 EDT
-
- I've also just developed this problem with Xmodem uploads. It aint the CRC
- folks. If you wait for GEnie to send its "READY" prompt for your upload
- you'll notice that instead it says "ADYNPU" and then doesn't send the NAK code
- at all.
-
- Now, whether this is GEnie's fault or Flash 2's I don't know. Pretty strange
- to get the ready prompt messed up!
-
- BTW, I'm in TTY mode. My Xmodem settings are irrelevant, I think, since the
- problem comes up even before I start doing anything with Xmodem.
-
-
- Hmmm, if Mike was getting the problem last week then it's gotta be Flash 2.
-
- [BTW, anyone can try this. Just start to upload any file then tell GEnie not
- to keep it after you're done.]
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 160 Sat May 15, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 00:29 EDT
-
- Sloth...
-
- Now I'm confused... :-) You say that a problem _just_ developed with you now
- trying to do Xmodem uploads? But it had worked fine before? If so, then it
- can't be F2 - nothing's changed there. If you're getting the wrong prompt
- from GEnie, but everything else you get from GEnie looks ok, then I'd venture
- to say the problem is with GEnie and not F2. Then again, I haven't heard of
- any GEnie problems either... Strange...
-
- Your Xmodem settings would be irrelevant if the GEnie prompt is wrong before
- you even started the upload, but they would be relevant once the upload
- begins.
-
- Your last line has me totally confused. "Just start to upload any file then
- tell GEnie not to keep it after you're done." Huh? If the file gets uploaded
- but you then tell GEnie to reject it, that means the upload worked! :-)
-
- You can also test uploads in GEmail. Just send mail to yourself and attach a
- binary file. The GEnie page for doing that is "m200;11".
-
- BTW - I just sent myself an email binary file and everything worked
- wonderfully. No problems either uploading or downloading the file. I did the
- test with the production version of Flash II, 2.1.
-
- (It's been a long week... <grin>)
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 161 Sat May 15, 1993
- M.MASTALER [Mike] at 03:59 EDT
-
- John. About our Xmodem upload problem; could it be that "Immediate" wasn't
- ticked ? If you DON't' have immediate ticked, do you have to type in something
- to START the Xmodem ? I'm used to downloading Zmodem; where you do nothing.
- Maybe I'm not doing something right...
- Mike
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 162 Sat May 15, 1993
- M.MASTALER [Mike] at 04:09 EDT
-
- John. That was the problem !!!! I didn't have "IMMEDIATE" ticked on in the
- transfer menu! BTW, If one doesn't tick immediate, what command do you use to
- start the transfer ? Thanks Mike
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 163 Sat May 15, 1993
- B.MENAGH [Bill] at 07:42 EDT
-
- Thanks for the comments from all those trying to assist with my F2 problems.
- I'll try the variouis suggestions and report back. Bill
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 164 Sat May 15, 1993
- R.BINGHAM2 [Da Sloth] at 12:33 EDT
-
- 'Just' means within the last month or two. At least in this case. <g>
-
- It worked fine before version 2.1. I *think* this was the first time I tried
- with the 2.1 version, though.
-
- What I meant by the last line <it was mighty late at night ;> was that anyone
- could test for this bug without fear of cluttering up the library. In fact,
- I'm gonna go do that now whilest on this DOS clone thing to see if a different
- program gets the same error.
-
-
- Mike: ALT-G starts transfers up, I errr I'm pretty sure.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 165 Sat May 15, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 20:08 EDT
-
- Mike...
-
- Ah Ha! Yes, if "Immediate" isn't ticked in the Transfer menu, then you must
- manually start *any* upload, not just Xmodem. Once your file is preselected
- in the menu and you are online, you need to press Alt-G to start the upload.
-
- So, just to review the procedure:
-
- 1) Go to Transfer|Upload.
- 2) Select file to upload - click on OK in file selector
- 3) File selector reappears - click on OK again (no file selected
- in the file name text field)
- 4) F2 switches to terminal mode...
- 5) When GEnie sends READY FOR INPUT, press Alt-G to start the
- upload.
-
- There are other methods for doing an upload also. For single files, quite
- honestly I find it easier to just start the upload manually from the command
- line. I press the [Insert] key to activate the F2 command line, I then enter
- UL XM (or whatever protocol desired) and then enter the name of the file in
- the file selector. When OK is clicked on the transfer starts immediately.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 166 Sun May 16, 1993
- R.BINGHAM2 [Da Sloth] at 03:38 EDT
-
- Tried uploading on a DOS machine, worked fine. Came back and tried with Flash
- 2 again and got ADYNPU. It's F2 for sure, or more specifically Flash 2.1.
-
-
- Let's see, I've got TTY mode on, Capture buffer, wordwrap, and rubout all on.
- I've got good old TOS 1.0 <old and reliable...well, reliably unreliable anyway
- ;>.
-
- Everything seems to work fine everywhere else. It's just GEnie's starting of
- Xmodem uploads (with or without CRC) to the library that doesn't work. Once I
- hit control-X and abort all the output is fine again.
-
- Strange but true. Also rather annoying. What should I send you?
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 167 Sun May 16, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 14:08 EDT
-
- Sloth...
-
- I'll admit I'm still really stumped here. Are you saying that all text being
- received by F2 is ok until GEnie sends "READY FOR INPUT" which comes back as
- "ADYNPU"? If so, that makes absolutely no sense at all. You haven't started
- (or at least you shouldn't have) the Xmodem upload yet at this point, so why
- should F2 cause this problem? I'm mystified! :-(
-
- Have you tried sending yourself an email upload? If so, does that work?
-
- I know you know this, but just in case, remember *not* to have F2 start the
- upload until after READY FOR INPUT is received from GEnie. If you do the Alt-G
- thing before that is received, or if you have "Immediate" ticked and activate
- the upload that way before READY FOR INPUT is received, then most likely the
- upload will fail.
-
- > What should I send you?
-
- Oh, how about a hundred bucks or so! :-) Seriously, there's nothing you need
- to send me - wouldn't do much good. Perhaps you could send me a capture of
- this mucked up text from GEnie, but even that probably wouldn't prove much. I
- just really am lost as to why you are having this problem. Doesn't make any
- sense... Sigh...
-
- Has *anyone* else seen this? Any ideas? Any hints? Any help?
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 168 Sun May 16, 1993
- R.BINGHAM2 [Da Sloth] at 15:23 EDT
-
- Hehe, maybe I should not try to fix the bug and instead sell tickets to pro
- bug-finders to watch it. <grin>
-
- You got it. Everything looks fine before the READY FOR INPUT prompt. That
- prompt comes out as ADYNPU <always those 6 letters>. No C's appear like they
- normally do when GEnie is trying to get your Xmodem started. Once I hit
- control-X, though, the 0 frames transmitted and all the rest of the text that
- follows works fine. I've done this with Flash2's transfer pulldown having
- only ASCII checked - no files ready at all.
-
-
- Yep, I know that about not starting. (Actually, uploads seem to work just
- great when you start them early. Or at least they used to. But that's beside
- the point because I'm not even trying to upload anything and this bug is
- hitting. If I do try to upload, the Xmodem simply times out.)
-
- I thought maybe GEnie was sending some odd control or escape codes out but TTY
- terminal mode shouldn't care, should it?
-
- I'll go check out Emailing files.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 169 Sun May 16, 1993
- FB [ST Librarian] at 18:48 EDT
-
- Da Sloth,
- Try setting your RS232 for calling GEnie to 8N1 instead of 7E1. I just tried
- using the 7E1 and got exactly the same six letters and had to abort the
- upload.
-
- Fred Beckman ST Librarian
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 170 Mon May 17, 1993
- R.BINGHAM2 [Da Sloth] at 00:50 EDT
-
- Will do. The DOS machine is on N81.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 171 Mon May 17, 1993
- A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt] at 06:57 EDT
-
- No, John, it's a stumper. Makes no sense.
-
- Are all the params set properly? A mismatch could cause something like this.
-
- (Ah, I see Fred confirmed this. Thanks, Fred.)
-
- Al
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 172 Mon May 17, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 09:52 EDT
-
- Sloth...
-
- No, you're correct. TTY mode shouldn't react to any odd control or escape
- codes. GEnie doesn't send them out anyway (as far as I know) so that's
- probably a non-issue.
-
- (You know, this kinda problem would *only* happen to Da Sloth, right? <g>)
-
- OK - let's attack this from a different perspective. What are your RS232
- Options for your GEnie board? I usually use "8N1" at 2400 baud (8 databits,
- No parity, 1 stopbit). I then strip the 8th bit in terminal options, just to
- get rid of any strange noise that might occur in transmission on that 8th bit.
- In Terminal Options, that mode is set by selecting "7 BIT" Control and
- Character Codes.
-
- What type of modem are you using? It doesn't have some automatic mode that
- switches between 7 and 8 bit data automatically, does it? If it does, perhaps
- you need to switch that mode off (you'll have to check your owners manual for
- details). It's possible that when the modem "thinks" that it's about to do a
- transfer, it's switching databit modes causing F2 to get confused. I'll admit
- that I know of no modem that does this, but then again I've had customers call
- looking for help trying to get a modem to work that is totally non-standard.
-
- Keep plugging at this Sloth... There's got to be an answer here somewhere!
-
- John T.
-
- P.S. Just saw Fred's reply - that confirms what I just discussed above. Good
- luck!
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 173 Mon May 17, 1993
- R.BINGHAM2 [Da Sloth] at 16:22 EDT
-
- It's the 7E1 and 8N1 difference for sure. I switched to 8N1 and it worked
- fine. I switched back to 7E1 again and it broke again. I tried switching to
- 8E1 real quick to try and figure out if it was the bits or the parity, but
- things freaked out bad at that setting.
-
- I also have the 8th bit stripped under terminal options.
-
- I'm using an old (5 years maybe?) Supra 2400 baud modem. Not MNP capable by a
- long shot.
-
-
- Now, why does it work at 8N1 but not 7E1? With the loss of characters, it's
- probably the parity. Perhaps GEnie is switching parity on me just as it
- starts to get to the upload?
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 174 Tue May 18, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 10:52 EDT
-
- Sloth...
-
- Well, alrighty!!! Glad to hear that switching to 8N1 fixes this for you.
-
- Yup - 8E1 almost certainly wouldn't work since, in essance, you've switched to
- a 9 bit word at this point (8 databits and 1 parity bit). I'm not aware of any
- BBS' that support that. I'm really not aware of any BBS support for 9 bits.
-
- 8N1 uses 8 bits - 8 databits and no parity, while 7E1 also uses 8 bits - 7
- databits and 1 parity bit.
-
- The Supra modem shouldn't have any affect. I think you hit the nail on the
- nead - GEnie must be switching to 8N1 for the transfer right before it sends
- the "READY FOR INPUT" message, and since F2 is still in 7E1 mode, things get
- mucked up. F2 *does* switch to 8N1 for the transfer, but not until you hit
- Alt-G or start the upload using some other method.
-
- Happy uploading! :-)
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 175 Wed May 19, 1993
- R.BINGHAM2 [Da Sloth] at 00:44 EDT
-
- Hmmmmmm....wonder if it'd work if I started the upload right away....
-
- Ah well, heck with it. GEnie supports 8N1 just fine. &S <errr, I meant to do
- that! ;>
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 176 Wed May 19, 1993
- A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt] at 03:25 EDT
-
- Yes, John, GEnie (and every other system I know of, including my own BBS)
- switches to 8N1 for protocol transfers.
-
- Al
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 177 Wed May 19, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 18:22 EDT
-
- Sloth,
- It's not all that uncommon to have different parts of a system as large as
- GEnie with little "glitches" like that. For instance over on Delphi when I
- was calling under, hmmm forget what system I was calling through (TymNet, or
- ??) but when I logged onto the node I got gibberish unless I set the terminal
- to 7E1, but once I got onto Delphi I had to use 8N1 with or without the strip
- bit on. As I said I don't recall which "net" I was calling through then, but
- I use TymNet now and it doesn't do that.
- I know that some transfer protocols require a minimum setup as far as data
- bits, etc so maybe the code was making some "ass"umptions and due to your
- setup it was causing the troubles.
-
- At any rate it all doesn't matter since you have it working now. :-)
-
- Wayne
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 178 Sun May 30, 1993
- A.B.SMITH [Barry] at 13:36 EDT
-
- John-
- Any idea why sometimes I can't force a marked block to append to
- another file. I was just appending some recent genealogical messages onto
- their appropriate files. Two blocks appended readily while the third refused
- to go to it's file. I finally got it there with a file merge. This has
- happened before. If I don't hear my HD give a few clicks, then the merge
- wasn't successful. Any ideas what might be the differance betwwen one block
- and another or perhaps one file and another?
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 179 Sun May 30, 1993
- B.MENAGH [Bill] at 14:52 EDT
-
- Thanks to those who, a while ago, offered assistance in my effort to get F2 up
- and running - F2 always hung up when entering the terminal mode. It was
- Silentline that was clashing and my problem is now resolved. However, perhaps
- I am mistaken, but I thought Silentline now ran with ZMODEM. Am I confusing
- my facts with what is in an intended upgrade. I am now using F2.1. Thanks,
- Bill
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 180 Sun May 30, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 23:09 EDT
-
- Barry....
-
- Nope - there shouldn't be any difference at all between one block and another
- when appending blocks to a file. I do it myself rather regularly and haven't
- had any problem. If no error dialogs pop up, everything should have worked
- just fine. The next time it happens, try remarking the block, changing it by
- a character or two and see if that helps. The only thing I can think of is
- that even though the block shows marked, it may not be. We had some block
- problems in 2.0, but those should be more than gone by now.
-
- Bill...
-
- Sorry, but Zmodem is not a part of Silent Line just yet. It's being worked on
- but it's taking much longer than we expected because the code needed to
- support Zmodem is rather complex and large. Trying to get it all to work in
- Silent Line hasn't been as easy as we'd hoped for.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 181 Mon May 31, 1993
- J.GERMAN3 [Hydraxxus] at 17:44 EDT
-
- Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you, I have been away on buisness
-
- John, I like the idea of several configurable sounds, but what I have used in
- the past is GEMSOUND. It is easy to configure the way I like and I can add
- whatever samples I like (I have a sample cart). Homer Simpson screams when my
- u/l or d/l is done (when I used that other term program), Kirk tells Scotty to
- beam him up when I go the the file selector. Sounds like that make it easier
- and friendlier to use. I can do something similar with the bell on Flash II
- but it is realy limited because it is only one sound ;(
-
- So far the program works well, I would like to see Zmodem work with Silentline
- (just like everyone else) but other than that I don't have anything to add.
- - * Hydraxxus * -
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 182 Mon May 31, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 21:38 EDT
-
- Hydraxxus...
-
- Sounds good (pun intended)! I'll admit that adding sound capability to Flash
- II is low on the priority list at the moment, but it *is* on the list and
- we'll get to it eventually. Gee, Homer Simpson screaming (at Bart, I presume)
- certainly would be different! :-)
-
- Hopefully we'll get Zmodem included in Silent Line one of these days.
- Unfortunately it's been more difficult to do than we anticipated.
-
- -------------------------------- On a slightly different topic... (since I've
- got nowhere else to post this at the moment...) I'm working on an upgrade to
- one of our other programs, lottODDS, and need some beta testers. If you play
- your local lotteries and are interested in checking this program out, please
- contact me in email. I'll only be taking on a few testers at this time.
-
- This is the first major upgrade to lottODDS and concerns itself mainly with
- MTOS compatibility and resolution independancy. I'll be adding more features
- as time goes on though (in the middle of all of this Flash II stuff we're
- working on! <g>).
-
- Again, if you are interested, please see me in email - not here. This topic is
- for Flash II! :-) (Hope Brian does get too ticked about an off topic posting
- here! :-) )
-
- John T.
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 183 Tue Jun 01, 1993
- B.MENAGH [Bill] at 19:41 EDT
-
- OOPS! My joy at finding my solution to getting F2 to stop bombing has been
- short lived. I just rebooted since I thought my difficulty was resolved and
- 4bombs when I try to dial - the pointer flickers and then bombs when the mouse
- is moved. I'm back trying the Auto Prgs and Desktop one by one. At the
- moment, I get a lockup when DATADIET, JAR10, NEOLOAD, WARP9, NEOCNTRL,
- WARP9_CP are running. The F2 folder is not dietized. All others have been
- deleted.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 184 Wed Jun 02, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 19:14 EDT
-
- Bill...
-
- What does JAR10 do? I'm familiar with a cookie jar program that's run as a
- normal app, but I'm not familiar with a program that runs as a TSR. It's
- possible there's some conflict with that.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 185 Wed Jun 02, 1993
- WAYNED. [Wayne] at 21:47 EDT
-
- John,
- JAR10 is needed by the newer NeoDesk. If I recall it expands the size of
- the "Cookie Jar".
-
- Wayne
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 186 Thu Jun 03, 1993
- A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt] at 07:46 EDT
-
- John,
-
- Jar is Dan Wilga's Cookie Jar Manager, a freeware item.
-
- Here is a section of the Jar doc:
-
- ...
-
- When Atari documented how to use the Cookie Jar, it outlined how programmers
- should create new cookies and how to see what value a particular cookie has.
- Unfortunately, the procedure for doing this is not all that simple. The result
- was that some programs either go about it half-heartedly, or do not work
- correctly in all cases.
-
- What JARxxx does is take the "dirty work" away and simplify the whole process
- of using the Cookie Jar. It provides a standard way for programs to look for
- cookies and create new ones. It also establishes a new jar, as large as you
- want it to be, for all future programs to use.
-
- If you received this program as part of another package, you will probably
- need it in order for the other program to run properly. NeoDesk, for instance,
- requires JARxxx, so that it can create a cookie to use later on. Even if you
- do not have a program which takes advantage of the code in JARxxx to look for
- and create new cookies, you can still benefit from its ability to enlarge the
- Cookie Jar, since some programs which create cookies will give an error
- message when the Cookie Jar is full, rather than making it larger.
-
- ...
-
- I an send you more info by email.
-
- Al
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 187 Thu Jun 03, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 20:36 EDT
-
- Al...
-
- No need to send more information. I'm aware of how the cookie jar stuff is
- supposed to work.
-
- It sounds like JARXXX is a work-around for programs that are handling the
- cookie jar in non-standard ways. Sigh... Any registered developer should
- have the information needed to properly handle this as it was published some
- time ago in one of the developer newsletter. I can see how NeoDesk might need
- to handle this separately so that it can properly handle noncompliant
- programs.
-
- In any case, it was only a guess that perhaps this program was causing some
- sort of contention with Flash II. It should be easy enough to temporarily
- eliminate it as a check. Flash II does look at the cookie jar at boot up to
- see if Silent Line is loaded.
-
- John T.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 188 Sat Jun 05, 1993
- B.MENAGH [Bill] at 15:13 EDT
-
- I'm glad that I'm asking questions that provoke some discussion - although
- into concerns that I had not anticipated. I'm still having difficvulties
- getting F2 to run without bombing (4 of them) when I move the mouse
- immediately after going to terminal mode and pressing the mouse button to get
- the dial directory. The dial screen does not get a chance to appear. I have
- tried all suggestions from a) reinstalling numerous times; b) getting rid of
- all Autofolder and ACCs; c) using the Application on the Desktop menu. No
- luck. Now I have had the program working immediately after a new installation
- on GEnie and a local service. However, F2 will not even do that now. Thanks
- for the help from those who have tried. I'll keep working at it from time-to-
- time. Thanks - Bill.
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 189 Sat Jun 05, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 18:44 EDT
-
- Bill...
-
- Well, if you tried booting F2 on a totally clean system and the program still
- does this, the only conclusion I can come to is that there is a fault in the
- program itself. The only way to determine that, I guess, is for you to send
- the master disk back to me so that I can check it out.
-
- Is using the mouse in terminal mode to pop up the Dial Boards dialog the
- *only* action that causes F2 to crash? If so, then don't do that any more!
- <big grin>
-
- There's no reason at all why F2 should be doing what it's doing. Perhaps your
- flash2.lst file has bad data in it? That could cause a problem. Try loading
- F2 *without* flash2.lst (rename it to something like "flash2.lsz") and see if
- the program still crashes. If it *doesn't*, then most assuredly you've got a
- corrupt .lst file. Rebuild a new one from scratch to see if that helps.
-
- There may also be corrupted data in the flash2.def file. Do the same test as
- above to see if that helps.
-
- Again, feel free to return your disk. Make sure it includes the .lst and .def
- file so that I can check them out (erase your passwords from the .lst file
- first though please).
-
- John T.
-
- ------------
- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 190 Sun Jun 06, 1993
- A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt] at 03:24 EDT
-
- Bill,
-
- Is the fast-load bit turned off for F2?
-
- Are you sure the DESKTOP or NEWDESK information file is not corrupted?
-
- Al
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- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 191 Sun Jun 06, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 18:56 EDT
-
- Al...
-
- Good point on the desktop/newdesk.inf files. Corrupted files have caused
- weird problems with other programs.
-
- The fast-load bit shouldn't make any difference. I've got all of the usual
- flags turned on all the time (fast load, Use TT ram, Run in TT ram) without
- any problems.
-
- John T.
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- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 192 Mon Jun 07, 1993
- A.B.SMITH [Barry] at 06:34 EDT
-
- John-
- I'm still slightly baffled on this APPEND BLOCK problem. I did some
- experimenting this morning. The blocks are indeed marked as I can perform
- other BLOCK functions on them with no problem.
-
- I did, just this moment, discover that the problem blocks will append
- to any file located w/in the same directory. I couldn't get any of them to
- append to my GENEALOGY/MESSAGES/*.* directory. Strangely enough, the other
- day when I posted the first message about this problem, some blocks would
- append to this directory and some would not.
-
- Should there be any problem appending to other paths?
-
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- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 193 Mon Jun 07, 1993
- A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt] at 21:34 EDT
-
- John,
-
- Glad to hear that the flags aren't causing a problem. In my current TT setup,
- the FL bit is the single largest source of conflict -- but then I do a lot of
- beta testing, with half-finished software. (Not F2, JT!)
-
- Al
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- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 194 Mon Jun 07, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 22:01 EDT
-
- Barry...
-
- I'm not aware of any problems appending blocks to any particular path. As I
- mentioned previously, I've had no problem with this function and no other
- reports of problems.
-
- FWIW, the sample directory you posted is illegal: GENEALOGY/MESSAGES/*.*.
- "GENEALOGY" contains 9 characters - a path name (or file name) can only
- contain 8 characters plus 3 extension characters. Subdirectories must be
- separated by a backslash '\', not a forward slash '/'. My guess is you just
- typoed this sample directory stuff into your message, however, if you are
- using the terminal command line to enter the path and filename for an append,
- then entering this information is extremely important.
-
- If you are doing the append from the menu in the editor, using the file
- selector to set the path, then there shouldn't be any problem.
-
- John T.
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- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 195 Sat Jun 12, 1993
- JLHOFFMAN [John Hoffman] at 05:24 EDT
-
- Hello,
-
- I just bought FLASH II and have one area where I'm having problems. This is in
- uploading ascii. If I select several lines in the capture buffer this is a
- block. If I then select ascii and upload a dialog comes up asking if I want
- to upload a file, ?? or block. I select block and nothing seems to happen. I
- tried different things but nothing would work. Finally I had to save the
- block to a file and upload the file.
-
- So what am I doing wrong.
-
- John
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- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 196 Sat Jun 12, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 17:51 EDT
-
- John...
-
- There are two ways to upload a block. You tried one of them, but you left out
- one important detail - actually starting the upload! :-) Whenever you use the
- "Transfer" menu to start any kind of transfer (upload or download) you either
- need to have "Immediate" checked or do an Alt-G from the Terminal Screen to
- start the upload. In your case, you marked a block, went to the Transfer
- menu, and selected "Upload", "ASCII" and "Block". F2 should have switched to
- the terminal screen right after selecting "Block". At that point F2 waits for
- Alt-G (think of it as a "go" command) from you to start the transfer, *unless*
- "Immediate* is checked at which time it starts the transfer "immediately".
-
- The second way to start a transfer is the one I use most often. I upload
- quite a few blocks in my day-to-day use of F2. I just mark the block in the
- capture buffer, switch back to terminal mode manually (right mouse button),
- press the [Insert] key to put me in command mode, and enter "ul bl as". That
- uploads the block right then and there, with no need to click on "Immediate"
- or press Alt-G.
-
- If you have any other questions, please let me know.
-
- John T.
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- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 197 Tue Jun 15, 1993
- M.MACLEOD [Mike@Calgary] at 22:44 EDT
-
- Is the upgrade special from V1.6 for $30 US still available ?
-
- I've been looking all over for about 6 weeks now for my original V1.6 disk and
- just could not find it anywhere. I'd just about resigned myself to paying full
- price when I'm cleaning out a closet and I just happened to find a diskette
- mailer with a label made out to Missionware Software. Suddenly, I remember
- what I did. Not having any cash at the time but nonetheless hyped over F2 I
- made mailer up and stuck the disk inside and promptly forgot. :) All I can say
- is DUH !
-
- MIke
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- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 198 Tue Jun 15, 1993
- R.BINGHAM2 [Da Sloth] at 23:57 EDT
-
- Any time frame known for version 2.11 to get uploaded? I'm getting real tired
- of having to turn rubout off for the type ahead buffer.
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- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 199 Wed Jun 16, 1993
- J.TRAUTSCHOL [jtrautschold] at 22:40 EDT
-
- Mike...
-
- Yup, the $30 upgrade is still available. You also need to add $4 for shipping
- and handling to North America. Just send me your old disk along with your
- order and method of payment, and Flash II version 2.1 will be on its merry way
- to you! :-)
-
- Sloth...
-
- (You aren't of the "three-toed" variety, are you??? <g>) 2.11 is in final
- beta test right now and seems to be passing. Hopefully we'll be uploading it
- shortly.
-
- John T.
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- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 200 Thu Jun 17, 1993
- A.FASOLDT [Al Fasoldt] at 07:41 EDT
-
- John,
-
- Yep, that version is well behaved so far. I'll hammer on it some more today.
-
- Al
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- Category 8, Topic 2
- Message 201 Thu Jun 17, 1993
- L.BUDNICK [Lorne] at 21:23 EDT
-
- OK John,
-
- Your response to Mike was the information I was looking for as well. Just give
- me an address, and my disk and $$ will be on the way to you as well.
-
- Lorne.... Thursday June 17, 1993 08:02:28 p.m.
-
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